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  • @ Vendor-Lazarus:
    Speaking of, how true is it that most everyone in the US is on drugs, legal or illegal?
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  • @ Arnox:
    Vendor-Lazarus said:
    Speaking of, how true is it that most everyone in the US is on drugs, legal or illegal?
    Like... Just recreational or... ?
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  • @ Aoi:
    I smoke green... I've been put on painkillers for an accident before (not on them anymore)... Some shitty meds that didn't help me... Finally some basic meds that are simpler and help.
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  • @ Aoi:
    So I'd say for people like me, yeah
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  • @ Aoi:
    And by majority those who don't have some sort of medication are either very lucky, or can't afford it imo.
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  • @ Houseman:
    Jesus is my drug
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  • @ Vendor-Lazarus:
    These answers seems to confirm it then, thanks.
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  • @ Dale Gribble:
    I see it more so in my parents generation, having a pill for everything. Guarantee any older southern mema or papa has health issues after a lifetime of sodas gravy and fried chicken
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  • @ Dale Gribble:
    Me personally I avoid the doctor like the plague, but that’s mainly because I’m scared.
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  • @ Dale Gribble:
    If I don’t feel good I normally fast for 12-24 hours, take dandelion root/elderberry syrup/golden honey and try to get extra sleep
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  • @ Dale Gribble:
    I also find a lot of times eating something really spicy makes me feel better too
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  • @ Gauche:
    Dale Gribble said:
    I avoid the doctor like the plague
    Last time I went to a hospital I pissed into a cup and got told I'm fine. Asked two peeps where to pay, both said they'd mail it. Bill comes a month later for 5k and legal penalties - everyone involved should be homeless
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  • @ Vendor-Lazarus:
    If you were homeless, they couldn't send you mail. Which is apparently the way to go about "paying" US medical bills. It gets cheaper the longer you wait to pay them.
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  • @ Dale Gribble:
    yup I have like 30k in medical bills I can’t pay. What am I supposed to do? I don’t have it
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  • @ Houseman:
    Just plead with them on the phone, and continue not to pay it. They'll possibly lower it or come up with a payment plan. If it gets passed off to collections, do the same. Just keep stalling. Eventually they will figure that some money is better than no money. But this is just what I've heard. There are many stories like this
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  • @ Dale Gribble:
    Wanna know what’s really funny? 20k of that is from a life saving surgery my wife needed that my insurance decided was elective and only covered 40%
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  • @ Arnox:
    Houseman said:
    Just plead with them on the phone, and continue not to pay it. They'll possibly lower it or come up with a payment plan. If it gets passed off to collections, do the same. Just keep stalling. Eventually they will figure that some money is better than no money. But this is just what I've heard. There are many stories like this
    Basically this. Insurances companies negotiate vastly lower prices all the time. Give them an ultimatum. Either they drop the price a lot or you're not paying it. And of course, make sure the final price is something you can afford.
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  • @ Arnox:
    Dale Gribble said:
    Wanna know what’s really funny? 20k of that is from a life saving surgery my wife needed that my insurance decided was elective and only covered 40%
    And people wonder why everyone was cheering on Luigi when he shot an insurance executive in the back.
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  • @ Battousai:
    Do you americans not understand that you are legit the only people who have this insurance bullshit or what? And I don't even mean free state healthcare or anything like that, seriously I pay a private medical insurance company and this shit doesn't happen, its illegal. Bro I pay about 154 USD a month and I get a full coverage, come on man. This is making it seem like you all need to do the same as Luigi with every single insurance executive in the US until the message comes through loud and clear.
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  • @ Vendor-Lazarus:
    It does sound bizarre indeed. I may pay 30% wage tax, 30% income tax, and 30% sales tax at minimum, but I've had at least 4 surgeries and only paid 100$ each visit.
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  • @ Arnox:
    Battousai said:
    Do you americans not understand that you are legit the only people who have this insurance bullshit or what? And I don't even mean free state healthcare or anything like that, seriously I pay a private medical insurance company and this shit doesn't happen, its illegal. Bro I pay about 154 USD a month and I get a full coverage, come on man...
    Well, how you gonna fix that? Oh, you need Congress. Well, how you gonna get Congress to pass bills to regulate it? Oh wait, you don't! :) I mean, we have a budgetary bill going through Congress right now and they were told to lower the national debt. Their response? Keep most of the bullshit programs and cut Medicaid.
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  • @ Arnox:
    Americans are so downtrodden right now, it's crazy, and when that's not happening, we're going for each other's throats over inane crap.
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  • @ Vendor-Lazarus:
    Sort of related/unrelated, but I heard the ATF is going to be folded into the DEA.. (also cost-cutting?)
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  • @ Battousai:
    Vendor-Lazarus said:
    It does sound bizarre indeed. I may pay 30% wage tax, 30% income tax, and 30% sales tax at minimum, but I've had at least 4 surgeries and only paid 100$ each visit.
    This is all well and good, but given all I read its making it sound like this is just an exception and not something that should definitely be the rule. You can't be charging a regular joe 30k dollars for a surgery to save a family member and then they are indebted for a couple of generations, shit is ridiculous.
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  • @ Vendor-Lazarus:
    I probably should have mentioned that I'm not from the US..
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