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How do you feel about President Trump?

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I'm politically neutral, so I don't care one way or the other.

But I think the event itself was, and continues to be, very amusing, and will likely continue to provide belly laughs until his term(s) end(s). The people who vehemently oppose him contribute greatly to this hilarity.

For one thing, he's not a "career politician" who worked their way up from local government and eventually became a senator or congressman. He's just a very rich guy. And the system (in theory) allows for nearly anybody to run for President. He ran, he was voted for, and he won. In theory, everything was working as designed, so there should have been no problems, right? Well, apparently not, because as soon as the voting was over, people cried RIGGED, and started pointing fingers in every possible direction.

And God forbid you publicly say that you support the President. You will be harassed, fired, and even assaulted. Just think: to stand by the elected leader of your country will cause you to be crucified by citizens of that same country. That's pretty wild, if you ask me. That seems to go against the entire point of a democratic election, to the extent that these opposers are undermining the political process that is the foundation of their own country. What do they want instead? Are they going to riot every time they are out voted?

What are your thoughts?
 
I like him. I don't keep up with U.S politics too much, but it sounds like he's been doing an alright job so far, at-least from what I've heard. I'm looking forward to next years election, since that should be an interesting spectacle.
 
It is not for nothing that Brazil's president is called the 'tropical Trump', despite some differences. Same stupid behavior down here. Supposedly, "democracy died" because he was elected.

I think Trump is too lenient with some groups. Would not mind if he turned it up to eleven.
 
That I find that its going to be a VERY interesting 2020 mid term election if he is still in office by the end of the year.
 
Lot of potential. Didn't deliver. Improved some things and messed up others.

Be careful though because a former KGB agent (verified) pretty much confirmed that Russia's using social media to create outrages and spark huge divisions in the US. They did this stuff before and now they're doing it here.
 
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I'll be voting for him this November because I do not support the alternative.
 
Trump is just another zog cocksucker. I'll vote for him because my dad asked me to. Not even sure if it matters tbh
 
Trump makes me proud to be an American, because I see all the normal people standing with him, and they want the country to be the best it can be. I don't even care if he's "controlled opposition" or anything like that, because his message is good, and it's making everyone want to be their best too.
 
I'll be voting for him this November because I do not support the alternative.

There are other candidates besides the usual republican and democrat horseshit, you know.

Trump is just another zog cocksucker. I'll vote for him because my dad asked me to. Not even sure if it matters tbh

It very probably won't matter, no. But I'm a very strong believer that one should vote for who they think SHOULD be in office, not who is more likely to win.

Trump makes me proud to be an American, because I see all the normal people standing with him, and they want the country to be the best it can be. I don't even care if he's "controlled opposition" or anything like that, because his message is good, and it's making everyone want to be their best too.

Bro, did you even SEE that debate? I mean, I'm not voting for Harris at all either, but give me a fucking break, man.
 
Bro, did you even SEE that debate? I mean, I'm not voting for Harris at all either, but give me a fucking break, man.
Which one? The Biden one? The Kamala one? Or the VP debate? All made Trump look golden to me. I guess I missed seeing what you saw in it.

I also watch a lot more than just the debates. There's his interviews and rallies. I enjoyed the Gutfield one, because he allowed himself to stop putting on the persona for a few minutes and answer questions from the audience.
 
It made Trump look quite literally insane is what it did. He was rambling about bullshit for half of it. You gotta be trolling me.
I'm literally not. Maybe I'm just more connected than you, but I heard about the eating cats and dogs thing the day before the debate (or was it the day of?). Not sure what else constitutes rambling bullshit in that debate, but he wasn't speaking anything false. Some hyperbole, yes, but that's expected, and I don't take him literally on those things.

"We have the greatest rallies. No one ever leaves them."

Yeah, I'm sure that's false, but it's still broadly true that the vast majority of people that show up do want to be there and will stick around like it's a tailgate party.
 
"We have the greatest rallies. No one ever leaves them."

Yeah, I'm sure that's false, but it's still broadly true that the vast majority of people that show up do want to be there and will stick around like it's a tailgate party.
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I'm literally not. Maybe I'm just more connected than you, but I heard about the eating cats and dogs thing the day before the debate (or was it the day of?). Not sure what else constitutes rambling bullshit in that debate, but he wasn't speaking anything false. Some hyperbole, yes, but that's expected, and I don't take him literally on those things.

"We have the greatest rallies. No one ever leaves them."

Yeah, I'm sure that's false, but it's still broadly true that the vast majority of people that show up do want to be there and will stick around like it's a tailgate party.

> Gets asked about the economy
> Goes on rant about violent immigration

He also accuses her of Marxism because she advocates for generally stricter control of companies. A noted example by Trump is Kamala's proposed price control initiative on food during emergencies. Now, I personally think this sounds naive and messy at first glance, but is this socialist or Marxist? There's a big difference between the two. (It is true though that her father is definitely Marxist-leaning.) Then he claims everyone ever (including democrats) wanted the Roe v. Wade verdict. (They didn't. It was a huge fucking split for the US.) Then he goes on a huge tangent talking about the democrat student loan policy, completely abandoning the abortion topic.

Then there was, as you said, some confused rant about eating cats and dogs as you say. And then some more January 6th denial. I personally don't know 100% for sure on that topic, but it REALLY sounds like Trump's trying to pass it off like he was some completely unknowing person when that went down and that's just scummy. Either he can fully support the people infiltrating the capital building on Jan. 6th and defend their actions or he can wash his hands of the affair and stay silent and actually unaffiliated, but he can't have his damn cake and eat it too. One or the other.
 
the eating cats and dogs thing the day before the debate (or was it the day of?).
Fairly certain it was during the debate, thats where the main soundbite seems to come from. Best thing about that, was people posting haitian food on twitter saying "we don't eat pets, this is what a local cuisine looks like" and it was all just various piles of slop

> Gets asked about the economy
> Goes on rant about violent immigration
Low skill imigrants drive down wages.

infiltrating the capital building on Jan. 6th
they were let in. there's videos of this. they even stayed within the roped barriers. Sure some shenanigans were had, but it was still far more peaceful than the floyd riots that the dems allowed.
 
There are other candidates besides the usual republican and democrat horseshit, you know.
It very probably won't matter, no. But I'm a very strong believer that one should vote for who they think SHOULD be in office, not who is more likely to win.

There are other candidates, but how do you wake up enough of the population to actually vote for them? I would love something like Germanys AfD party here tbh. This is all assuming voting even matters.

The general sentiment is voting third party is throwing your vote away, and it's kind of true. Neither candidate deserves my vote. If all Whites stopped voting republican they would turn into far right extremists overnight, it would all be a big show though.
 
Fairly certain it was during the debate, thats where the main soundbite seems to come from. Best thing about that, was people posting haitian food on twitter saying "we don't eat pets, this is what a local cuisine looks like" and it was all just various piles of slop
No, I heard it before the debate. The debate was NOT the first time anyone said it around me. The point being that people will look at Trump bringing it up thinking he's crazy and ranting about things that aren't true, but I'm saying it was current news at the time, but the MSM didn't want to talk about it until he did.
> Gets asked about the economy
> Goes on rant about violent immigration
Wages are determined partially by supply and demand. Immigration suppresses wages for everyone.

He also accuses her of Marxism because she advocates for generally stricter control of companies. A noted example by Trump is Kamala's proposed price control initiative on food during emergencies. Now, I personally think this sounds naive and messy at first glance, but is this socialist or Marxist?
This is 100% Marxist. You may see a difference between socialism, Marxism, and communism, but where there are differences between them, I see them as all different breeds of cats. They still do cat things no matter their size and color.

Then he claims everyone ever (including democrats) wanted the Roe v. Wade verdict. (They didn't. It was a huge fucking split for the US.)
That was his hyperbole again, but the end result is correct. RvW used some incredibly awful legal reasoning to get in place, and it basically was the supreme court writing federal legislation. It needed to be removed just for that reason alone, and put to the states. Most of the people arguing about it over the decades didn't even realize the implication that had on the legal system and were caught up on the emotional side of the argument of the life of the baby or the rights of the mother. That's why putting it to the states is important, because each state can now determine which has more value.

Then he goes on a huge tangent talking about the democrat student loan policy, completely abandoning the abortion topic.
The abortion topic has been raging on for 50 years, and no one is going to change their mind about it. Debate times are already direly limited and overly controlled to the point where no discussion can happen. Talking about other bad and failed policies needs to be done because they don't have 50 years of discourse behind them, and there's a chance that someone viewing can have their mind changed.

And then some more January 6th denial. I personally don't know 100% for sure on that topic, but it REALLY sounds like Trump's trying to pass it off like he was some completely unknowing person when that went down
Long story short, the FBI had some people in the crowd to instigate a riot. Crowds of people are dumb and easy to manipulate. If for some reason people didn't do what they wanted, they had the fake pipe bombs set up around DC, which was briefly mentioned, but everyone stopped talking about it once the riot happened as hoped. Trump had nothing to do with it.
and that's just scummy
He did the most he possibly could do. He put out a post on social media telling people to go home once the riot started. Twitter banned him pretty quickly after that point so people couldn't even see the message he left, and the narrative was controlled on the protesters.

Either he can fully support the people infiltrating the capital building on Jan. 6th and defend their actions or he can wash his hands of the affair and stay silent and actually unaffiliated, but he can't have his damn cake and eat it too. One or the other.
There were numerous anomalies in key swing state voting districts that were never adjudicated. There were over 50 lawsuits that were dismissed on standing without even reviewing the evidence. He clearly supports the people that were there to support him, especially the ones that have been in jail since the incident without any worse crimes than trespassing.


My original post said that Trump inspires me to be the best American I can be. Is there anyone that you've seen in power that inspires you that way?

Corey Comperatore said they were to die for
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The general sentiment is voting third party is throwing your vote away, and it's kind of true.
It 100% is. Like it or not, the average voter isn't able to process much beyond the binary. Yes or no, approve or disapprove, Democrat or Republican. The only way to change the system is to make sure the ones holding those D and R seats have your best interests in mind, and the way you do that is either run for yourself or primary in those that you think will do the job. The Dems over the last 15+ years have had socialist infiltrators, and now they are the complete opposite their brand has sold them as. The same can happen with the republicans, and it's slowly happening as more MAGA-friendly candidates are showing up. Voting 3rd party is always helping the greater of the two evils you find in the R and D candidates, because mathematically speaking, a vote for neither is support more for the one you don't want.
 
No, I heard it before the debate. The debate was NOT the first time anyone said it around me. The point being that people will look at Trump bringing it up thinking he's crazy and ranting about things that aren't true, but I'm saying it was current news at the time, but the MSM didn't want to talk about it until he did.

Even if it was brought up before, it's not good policy as a presidential candidate to incite fear off of hearsay. Not something that should be brought up during a presidential debate.

Wages are determined partially by supply and demand. Immigration suppresses wages for everyone.

What do you think of this study?

This is 100% Marxist.

So would you define any kind of governmental control of corporations as Marxism?

supreme court writing federal legislation.

The Supreme Court can indeed technically do that. The particulars may not be in their control (that's more the Executive branch than anything) but still, they're there to definitively decide legal issues that are in question. Now, you could definitely say that in RvW, they did a shit job, but that's another matter entirely.

The abortion topic has been raging on for 50 years, and no one is going to change their mind about it.

Maybe, but he was still asked about it. The very least he could do is provide rationale for changing the subject. But he didn't. He just barreled right into whatever the fuck he wanted to talk about.

Long story short, the FBI had some people in the crowd to instigate a riot.

Not super relevant to my original point here, but do you have a source for this?
My original post said that Trump inspires me to be the best American I can be. Is there anyone that you've seen in power that inspires you that way?

Nobody does. Nobody has in my lifetime, politically. Maybe Lina Khan since she's actually FINALLY going after these fucking tech companies, but we'll see what happens with that. And that's not really inspiring so much as just good.

The general sentiment is voting third party is throwing your vote away, and it's kind of true.

Doesn't matter. The right thing to do doesn't stop being right because nobody is doing it. This is a matter of principles, not tactics.
 
I'll tell you that before 2016, I didn't care about politics really. I didn't give a shit.
When Trump got voted in he began doing his thing, learning the presidential/political ropes etc. making his appearances giving his speeches. From the beginning, the left was VERY critical of him. Bashing every damned thing he did no matter how miniscule.
Well, he traveled to Japan and was with the prime minister and the news was covering him throughout his visit. He and the PM was shown feeding some Koi fish and Trump dumped his entire box in to the pool like a buffoon. The leftist news started laughing at him and asking "this is the guy who's leading our country!? He doesn't even respect other country's customs!".
I didn't think too much of it until I saw the full video on YouTube where he was following the PM's lead and Trump was doing everything that he was doing including spooning it out. The news edited that part out to make him look dumb. After that, later on, a couple of the other channels started showing the full footage.
I started following politics much closer after that and begin to realize that most of the bullshit they say about him is just that. That he's racist, he's a dictator, Project 2025 etc.. All bullshit.

Yeah, I like Trump quite a bit. He's a real dude and not just a politician. I think he really does give a shit about America and that's why he decided to run.

I think the last election was definitely rigged (State Street purchased Dominion voting systems in 2019. That's odd...) And I think they took advantage of the COVID situation with mail in ballots etc. Spreading lies about how wanting Voter ID makes you racist because * racist list of reasons black Americans are incapable of coming down to vote or obtain an ID*.
The media has filled people with so much fear and hate, that an older black neighbor of mine was convinced that Trump and Republicans were going to put "people of color" in chains. I asked him when Biden's administration released him of Trump's shackles the last time and he looked at me dumbfounded and then responded that "Trump was just warming up. He's going to do it this time". I told him to put aside Legacy media and do some research, because they're lying to him and it's not good for his mental health.

I think Trump should tone down his hyperbole because that's where people attempt to fact check him and call him a liar. He's typically spot on about most shit though.

That's SOME of my experience and feelings about Trump and the past eight-ish years.

Don't get me started on "The Summer of Love" and George Floyd and the last couple of years of his presidency lol.
 
I don't feel
Either he can fully support the people infiltrating the capital building on Jan. 6th and defend their actions or he can wash his hands of the affair and stay silent and actually unaffiliated, but he can't have his damn cake and eat it too. One or the other.
In my eyes, I consider his list of pardons washing his hands of the affair. 🥕 🕹️
He clearly supports the people that were there to support him, especially the ones that have been in jail since the incident without any worse crimes than trespassing.
Clearly not enough to have pardoned them when able though. Ashli Babbitt's family is suing the US gov for 30 million, does he especially support them or just her?
I think Trump should tone down his hyperbole because that's where people attempt to fact check him and call him a liar
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In my eyes, I consider his list of pardons washing his hands of the affair. 🥕 🕹️

Clearly not enough to have pardoned them when able though. Ashli Babbitt's family is suing the US gov for 30 million, does he especially support them or just her?

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Lame joke lol
 
I'll tell you that before 2016, I didn't care about politics really. I didn't give a shit.
When Trump got voted in he began doing his thing, learning the presidential/political ropes etc. making his appearances giving his speeches. From the beginning, the left was VERY critical of him. Bashing every damned thing he did no matter how miniscule.
Well, he traveled to Japan and was with the prime minister and the news was covering him throughout his visit. He and the PM was shown feeding some Koi fish and Trump dumped his entire box in to the pool like a buffoon. The leftist news started laughing at him and asking "this is the guy who's leading our country!? He doesn't even respect other country's customs!".
I didn't think too much of it until I saw the full video on YouTube where he was following the PM's lead and Trump was doing everything that he was doing including spooning it out. The news edited that part out to make him look dumb. After that, later on, a couple of the other channels started showing the full footage.
I started following politics much closer after that and begin to realize that most of the bullshit they say about him is just that. That he's racist, he's a dictator, Project 2025 etc.. All bullshit.

Yeah, I like Trump quite a bit. He's a real dude and not just a politician. I think he really does give a shit about America and that's why he decided to run.

I think the last election was definitely rigged (State Street purchased Dominion voting systems in 2019. That's odd...) And I think they took advantage of the COVID situation with mail in ballots etc. Spreading lies about how wanting Voter ID makes you racist because * racist list of reasons black Americans are incapable of coming down to vote or obtain an ID*.
The media has filled people with so much fear and hate, that an older black neighbor of mine was convinced that Trump and Republicans were going to put "people of color" in chains. I asked him when Biden's administration released him of Trump's shackles the last time and he looked at me dumbfounded and then responded that "Trump was just warming up. He's going to do it this time". I told him to put aside Legacy media and do some research, because they're lying to him and it's not good for his mental health.

I think Trump should tone down his hyperbole because that's where people attempt to fact check him and call him a liar. He's typically spot on about most shit though.

That's SOME of my experience and feelings about Trump and the past eight-ish years.

Don't get me started on "The Summer of Love" and George Floyd and the last couple of years of his presidency lol.

Hey remember when the Trump administration tried to get rid of Net Neutrality even though NOBODY except the greedy ass ISPs wanted it? I remember...

Remember when he cracked down on bump stocks because OMG automatic fire! Oh noez! THINK OF THE CHILDREN.

He's also repealed a lot of environmental regulations which... I don't know on that one. I'm not an expert. But still, not a good look.
 
Hey remember when the Trump administration tried to get rid of Net Neutrality even though NOBODY except the greedy ass ISPs wanted it? I remember...

Remember when he cracked down on bump stocks because OMG automatic fire! Oh noez! THINK OF THE CHILDREN.

He's also repealed a lot of environmental regulations which... I don't know on that one. I'm not an expert. But still, not a good look.
Idgaf about those except for the bump stocks. Truly, and he's admitted it, he appointed advisors based on others from the Republican parties recommendation and he listened to some of them and eventually fired them because the recommended help was no good. Remember, he's new to politics so he relied on those he felt would be trustworthy and yet they themselves ended up being part of the swamp/club. I believe he's learned his lesson.
 
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