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Is Masturbation Better Than Women?

Vendor-Lazarus

Arch Disciple
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So this is where VolCel's and InCel's meet the far fringe of MGTOW.

I mean, he does have some points. A few. Not all are as solid or profound like he wants to think.
The most pressing being progeny. And millions of years of evolution/love.

Nothing wrong with people not wanting companionship, but don't try to make a trend, or lambast quite so hard against women in general.

I'm a non-affiliated InCel..An involuntary Celibate. A virgin, simply put.
And I don't feel masturbation can replace a passion-filled love-making session between two infatuated individuals.
 

Signa

Libertarian Contrarian
Sanctuary legend
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764
So I agree it's logically sound, but so is nihilism. You may be an insignificant speck of nothing on a speck dust in the cosmos, but that doesn't mean that's the right perspective. Same with having a relationship. It's not about you anymore. It's about you and your partner. If a relationship is that much trouble for you, then you paired yourself with the wrong person.

...

as I say having never tried to pair myself with anyone...
 

Monoochrom

Disciple
Sanctuary legend
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275
Lol, no. Pussy is pretty great, OP and Video Maker should try it some time.

Also, Protip: You Hand is not a Sex Partner let alone multiple xDDD

Edit:

Also, also, whoever made the Video should seek help. At multiple points the only proper response to what is said would be "Uh, what? I couldn't understand you through the crazy.", worse evene, these tend to be the points where the creator tells themselves that they are convincing. Maybe to someone utterly pathetic.

And am I the only one the didn't get what the "Fantasy Football" answer was supposed to mean?o_O
 

andersonnnunes

Disciple
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326
Vendor-Lazarus said:
So this is where VolCel's and InCel's meet the far fringe of MGTOW.
Well said.

Vendor-Lazarus said:
The most pressing being progeny. And millions of years of evolution/love.
Yes. Attraction is not a choice, but we can chose how to deal with it.

Vendor-Lazarus said:
lambast quite so hard
Anyone is free and advised to ignore/block/shadow-ban my username if that would make them feel better.

Vendor-Lazarus said:
And I don't feel masturbation can replace a passion-filled love-making session between two infatuated individuals.
Signa said:
It's about you and your partner. If a relationship is that much trouble for you, then you paired yourself with the wrong person.
Have you seen r/DeadBedrooms? Seems like lots of well-paired infatuated individuals get frustrated with their sex lives, some even consider suicide.
 

bluegate

Disciple
Sanctuary legend
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292
Is this what's called defeatism?

"It's alright! I didn't want to ever have sex anyway! "

But no, I don't think that masturbation is better than having sex with a person.

To be clear though, I don't subscribe to the American pop culture idea that if one hasn't had sex before an arbitrary age that one is a loser 4 life or anything. Something which I feel might play into some people going the virgin for life road.
 

Signa

Libertarian Contrarian
Sanctuary legend
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764
andersonnnunes said:
Vendor-Lazarus said:
So this is where VolCel's and InCel's meet the far fringe of MGTOW.
Well said.

Vendor-Lazarus said:
The most pressing being progeny. And millions of years of evolution/love.
Yes. Attraction is not a choice, but we can chose how to deal with it.

Vendor-Lazarus said:
lambast quite so hard
Anyone is free and advised to ignore/block/shadow-ban my username if that would make them feel better.

Vendor-Lazarus said:
And I don't feel masturbation can replace a passion-filled love-making session between two infatuated individuals.
Signa said:
It's about you and your partner. If a relationship is that much trouble for you, then you paired yourself with the wrong person.
Have you seen r/DeadBedrooms? Seems like lots of well-paired infatuated individuals get frustrated with their sex lives, some even consider suicide.
Never heard of it. Still, I wouldn't take what a subreddit has to say on the matter without a grain of salt. Its going to collect stories from people looking for a place to tell them, and make the issue seem a lot more common than it really is.
 

streetcarp

Outlander
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3
The incel phenomenon is a product of western media (Hollywood and shit). bluegate is right, being a virgin at a certain age doesn't matter, despite how horrible it might feel. Having imagery of attractive young people doing it everywhere or coyly suggesting the possibility of doing it as like, one of our main forms of entertainment is fucking weird and psychologically damaging.


This stuff puts pressure on people to go out with intent to fuck, but under normal circumstances that just creeps people out.
 

Arnox

Master
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Founder
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streetcarp said:
The incel phenomenon is a product of western media (Hollywood and shit). bluegate is right, being a virgin at a certain age doesn't matter, despite how horrible it might feel. Having imagery of attractive young people doing it everywhere or coyly suggesting the possibility of doing it as like, one of our main forms of entertainment is fucking weird and psychologically damaging.


This stuff puts pressure on people to go out with intent to fuck, but under normal circumstances that just creeps people out.
The entire way our society handles romance/relationships is pretty fucked up, honestly. For example, women generally feel more threatened by a guy than the other way around, (especially these days it seems) but our culture still dictates that guys have to make the first move.
 

infinityshock

Disciple
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331
The entire way our society handles romance/relationships is pretty fucked up, honestly. For example, women generally feel more threatened by a guy than the other way around, (especially these days it seems) but our culture still dictates that guys have to make the first move.
and everyone knows where cultural norms are rooted: the media. or more accurately...the MINITRU and their jew controllers.

back a few decades ago it was literally illegal to show a man and a woman in bed together. now they have shows on the cartoon network with the intended audience being pre-teen children that are literally porn.
 

bluegate

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and everyone knows where cultural norms are rooted: the media. or more accurately...the MINITRU and their jew controllers.

back a few decades ago it was literally illegal to show a man and a woman in bed together. now they have shows on the cartoon network with the intended audience being pre-teen children that are literally porn.
Citation Needed.
 

Monoochrom

Disciple
Sanctuary legend
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275
Citation Needed.

I expect something stupid like "Well, the Fusions in Steven Universe are totally just the Characters having Sex, nothing metaphorical there at all."

But here's the thing, while Age is largely arbitrary, if you are prepared to have Sex and actually having it is no where on the horizon, well, that's on you. There are multiple Somebodies for pretty much everybody, if you are neither having Sex nor working towards it happening at some point and it's something that you want, it's because you are doing something wrong, maybe you aren't trying, maybe you are a tactless fool who knows? But literal penniless Homeless people can get laid so why is it that certain people, weirdly enough people that tend to be either very passive or overtly aggressive, can't seem to find someone willing to sleep with them.
 
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I expect something stupid like "Well, the Fusions in Steven Universe are totally just the Characters having Sex, nothing metaphorical there at all."

But here's the thing, while Age is largely arbitrary, if you are prepared to have Sex and actually having it is no where on the horizon, well, that's on you. There are multiple Somebodies for pretty much everybody, if you are neither having Sex nor working towards it happening at some point and it's something that you want, it's because you are doing something wrong, maybe you aren't trying, maybe you are a tactless fool who knows? But literal penniless Homeless people can get laid so why is it that certain people, weirdly enough people that tend to be either very passive or overtly aggressive, can't seem to find someone willing to sleep with them.
Ay bylat, this is correct. All the incels I've run across IRL are incels for two reasons: not willing to work on themselves, unrealistic standards. 99% of them can get laid if they just adjust those two things; the first in a major way, the second slightly.

I'm sure theres actually people out there who have a very, very difficult time finding a partner because they were born with a major beauty fault (think elephantiasis not imperfect jawline) or because they are severely shizophrenic or something, but I doubt those people make up anything approaching the majority of incels.

Bringing this round back to the OP: thats why your approach is fucked and you should slap yourself into shape, and why masturbating to pornography is absolute cancer. Leaving the speculation about porns effect on happy hormones and blabla at the door. "Wow, I'm horny, I should look for a partner or something" > "I can't get a partner because I suck" > now you can either work on yourself and become a better person in just about every area of your life to find that partner. Or you can jerk off while staring at perfect women. (Or men, or animals, or whatever you fucks get into at night.) Congratulations, now your immediate craving is fulfilled, you've successfully fapped away your motivation to change, but you're still gonna go to bed alone tonight and feel like shit. Repeat endlessly until you break the loop.

Bonus points if you do the above, but you're also a natsoc who doesn't like seeing women going for immigrants.

And don't come at me with that shit about not wanting to deal with women because they all suck. You get a good partner by being a good partner yourself. If all your girlfriends are obnoxious hoes, do whatever you need to do so you don't have to settle for that. The video made me cringe hard, oh I don't want to spend 50 bucks on a restaurant to get laid - then don't? I've never taken a girl out to dinner. Not a single time. What kind of people has the author of that video been dating? Its like combining the absolute worst possible attributes a female can have into one big ball. Women like that are not all that common and far from the standard you know.
 

bluegate

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this isnt a peer-reviewed scientifical journal...go figure out how to work google and do your own research

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/c...agenda-with-lesbian-kiss-in-kids-show-adventu

'rockos modern life' for one. theres another one aimed at teenagers that shows tits inappropriately...but i cant think of the name of it.
No, this isn't a peer-reviewed scientific journal, but I would like people to be able to back up their ridiculous claims about cartoon network airing literal porn. There'd be little sense in talking to you if all you're spewing are just fabrications.

As for the link you provided, two people of the same sex kissing isn't porn, now is it? Unless you're brought up extremely conservatively in America's retard belt... err, bible belt.

And I'm not going to search for other things you mentioned, I'm just going to assume you're making things up at this point.
 
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No, this isn't a peer-reviewed scientific journal, but I would like people to be able to back up their ridiculous claims about cartoon network airing literal porn. There'd be little sense in talking to you if all you're spewing are just fabrications.

As for the link you provided, two people of the same sex kissing isn't porn, now is it? Unless you're brought up extremely conservatively in America's retard belt... err, bible belt.

And I'm not going to search for other things you mentioned, I'm just going to assume you're making things up at this point.
There was this one kids TV show somewhere in America starring a black chad football player, a blonde girl and a blond nerd boy who's always fucking up. On its own thats just standard (((diverse))) writing for modern day television but there was weird cuckold symbolism in the background of some scenes and the producers had some kind of link making literal cuckold porn in the past.

Not something an 8 year old child is going to notice but it was still pretty messed up. I can't remember the name of the show though. Or who made it. Or anything else really.
 

infinityshock

Disciple
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No, this isn't a peer-reviewed scientific journal, but I would like people to be able to back up their ridiculous claims about cartoon network airing literal porn. There'd be little sense in talking to you if all you're spewing are just fabrications.

As for the link you provided, two people of the same sex kissing isn't porn, now is it? Unless you're brought up extremely conservatively in America's retard belt... err, bible belt.

And I'm not going to search for other things you mentioned, I'm just going to assume you're making things up at this point.
youre suffering from some sort of serious neurodegenerative disorder or excessive consumption of some sort of household cleaning product. if you want any further info than what i post you go run along and find it for yourself or hire a librarian. if youre not mentally capable of doing something that simple and basic to the usage of any site on the internet, youre banned from reading any of my posts.

im not here for your entertainment...youre here for mine
 

infinityshock

Disciple
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There was this one kids TV show somewhere in America starring a black chad football player, a blonde girl and a blond nerd boy who's always fucking up. On its own thats just standard (((diverse))) writing for modern day television but there was weird cuckold symbolism in the background of some scenes and the producers had some kind of link making literal cuckold porn in the past.

Not something an 8 year old child is going to notice but it was still pretty messed up. I can't remember the name of the show though. Or who made it. Or anything else really.
i read about it on some non-mainstream-media site...i know what one youre talking about. they had examples of the symbolism side-by-side with actual porn. from my memory 'bull'...the jersey numbers...etc
 
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i read about it on some non-mainstream-media site...i know what one youre talking about. they had examples of the symbolism side-by-side with actual porn. from my memory 'bull'...the jersey numbers...etc
I dug it out. The show was called "Bella and the Bulldogs" (lol cmon) and the writer for this innocent kids show was also the writer for a movie called "The Cuckold". No prizes for guessing what that one was about.

Also his Facebook profile (before he deleted it) was full of likes for cuckold porn movies and (exclusively white) female porn actresses.

Big think. Although judging by your pic I'm guessing you might wanna look into this more, might be up your street? :^)
 

infinityshock

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I dug it out. The show was called "Bella and the Bulldogs" (lol cmon) and the writer for this innocent kids show was also the writer for a movie called "The Cuckold". No prizes for guessing what that one was about.

Also his Facebook profile (before he deleted it) was full of likes for cuckold porn movies and (exclusively white) female porn actresses.

Big think. Although judging by your pic I'm guessing you might wanna look into this more, might be up your street? :^)
that sounds like it. nothing hypocritical about the jew-controlled MINITRU giving work to anyone that supports their goals of destroying human civilization but anyone that says one thing that hurts their fragile kike feelings is blacklisted from any job they control.

you mean the tactical dildo. that's for when someone really needs to be fucked up.

literally.
 

Monoochrom

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Why the hell do some people just have this seeming urge to inject their fetishes and weird ideologies into shit?

I have beliefs too, do they just not realise that nobody really gives a shit?
 
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