Anti Semitic And Main Character Syndrome.

[Lost-Zeneration-99]

(Not sure what this would be under so if needed @Arnox you can move it. This is a small rant as well because I find it insane.)
I been wondering this for a long while, and a bunch of nutjobs have been protesting on collages again. Thank God it not on the one i'm on but I would not know since i'm not a people person. Anyway I need some help on understanding this. Why do people hates the Jews and why are people for a lack of better wording sucking them off like they are so high and mighty? Yes what happened in WW2 was evil but that life, I mean it always been like this and their has always been genocides. I really could care less and I might come off as insensitive but why should I care? I got my own shit to deal with and not having the news and other people piss and moan that ohhh look at these people. Yeah people are evil and there is evil I mean it not that hard to understand that one out.

What I find even more stupider is the people who think the Jews are these hidden controllers of the world or some shit, and how they hold the power of the earth. This is coming from Bible reading people to, I mean why are you so scared of the boogieman jews if you really believe what is put down? They act like they’re trying to overthrow God or something or is gonna damn us all to hell because of something about the jews.

So anyone got any ideas as I don't get it?

 

[Arnox]

Here's my view on this.

Palestine's angry because Israel did X to Palestine. But Israel is mad too and did that because Palestine did Y to Israel. But Palestine says that earlier, Israel did Z to Palestine. But Israel says that even earlier, Palestine did blah de blah de blah... Both countries have been trying to kill each other for a very long time. Neither seems to be in the right at all. It's a bunch of tit-for-tat and thus, we really shouldn't be involved either way. This is just another dumb as fuck red vs. blue situation.

 

[Signa]

A couple of my younger siblings have fallen for the anti-Semitic narratives, and I barely want to talk to them at all anymore. I think it stems from everyone being betrayed by "experts" and what counts as the establishment that they end up looking for any counter-narrative to latch onto. The Jews being bad is a loud and popular one, even if it's absurd on its face.

For the protestors on campus, it's a mix of paid protestors and the Marxist ideologies that are pushed in the schools, where everything is simplified down to oppressed vs oppressor, and they see Israel as the oppressor, regardless of the history of the region. They will always be oppressors, so there is no deal that Isreal can strike to satisfy them.

 

[Dale Gribble]

Finally, a thread I’m the expert in.

So lefties hate Jews because they see them as the evil white colonists, kicking the browns out of their own homeland, killing them, etc. They don’t even know or give a shit about the boer genocide because it’s Africans killing whites.

Conservative Christians suck Jewish cock because they believe all that our greatest ally bullshit, and think Jews are the chosen people. Some bullshit that faggot billy graham started.

It’s a fact Jews control the banks. That alone gives you an immense amount of power.

I’m typing this during downtime at work so ask me if there’s anything else you want to know

 

[Vendor-Lazarus]

Put simply, it's about Identity Politics. In-group vs out-groups. Some people have so low self-esteem that they need to prop themselves (and their group) up and designate another (group) as bad. Others just join them because they want to fit in (and become brainwashed), or they've sadly been born into that mindset.

For racists is skin color/ethnicity vs skin color/ethnicity (neo-nazis, kkk, wokes, etc). For sexists it's sex/gender vs sex/gender (misogynists, wokes, etc), for religious people it's religion vs religion/non-religion (islam, christian sects, etc). They all think they're ubermensch vs untermench, superior vs inferior, moral vs immoral.

All the reasons they give are just excuses and tacked on after-the-fact justifications for the above.

 

[Lost-Zeneration-99]

Fellas I appreciate you guys out looks on this as I thought I was on some crazy pills. Nice to know that it’s all bullshit to begin with. So two sides of nutjobs and I don’t want to get involved, I had a feeling when all this was coming out that something felt off about it. I mean why in Gods name would people fight for ether side knowing it spelled the end for each one.

A damn shame how this tug of war of shit has gotten to people this bad. I do want to ask as I know you guys been around for a while. All theses colleges students and there little “protest”. Has this always happened say with each generation? For example all you guys was there something similar to this?

 

[Houseman]

It's "Anti Semitic" not "Semantic". You wouldn't want to embarrass yourself on a date, or something.

But many groups in history have always hated the Jews because, for a long time, Jews were a people without a nation. Jerusalem was destroyed and captured by Rome, and since then, they have spread out among the nations, embedding themselves into many different nation-states, and declaring the allegiance to whoever was in charge at the time. In feudal Europe, there were literally court Jews that handled financial business for their lords. They were granted certain privileges because of the services they provided.

They were foreigners who had no land or property of their own with which to make a living, so apart from those that had connections to royalty, they took up jobs like peddling, and banking. Many resented these jobs because it's as if they were making "money from nothing", since they didn't "create" anything themselves. Moreover, they had networks of commerce between their own people, which gave them an international advantage in some aspects of business. For example, the Rothschilds were the first Jewish family to really capitalize on their wealth and connections, and become international bankers across Europe. This is the basis for a lot of antisemitic conspiracies.

I don't know how true this is, but they apparently did not (or do not) charge other Jews interest on loans, due to a commandment in the Mosaic Law they follow, but were free to charge interest for non-Jews. This would obviously provide an additional in-group advantage.

Due to these conditions, when economic problems arose, it would be easy to look at the Jews, who were not struggling as much as the 'native' majority population, and blame them for the problems. If you and your children are starving, but your Jewish neighbors aren't, you might easily resent them.

 

[Houseman]

Fellas I appreciate you guys out looks on this as I thought I was on some crazy pills. Nice to know that it’s all bullshit to begin with. So two sides of nutjobs and I don’t want to get involved, I had a feeling when all this was coming out that something felt off about it. I mean why in Gods name would people fight for ether side knowing it spelled the end for each on.

A damn shame how this tug oh war oh shit has gotten to people this bad. I don’t want to ask as I know you guys been around for a while. All theses colleges students and there little “protest”. Has this always happened say with each generation? For example all you guys was there something similar to this?

Student protests have always been a thing. Students are taught some introductory course and think they know everything about what is right and wrong and what is an injustice and what isn't. They're taught that they can "change the world" and that they're going to be "future leaders", so why not get a head start on it?

This is only worse as critical thinking is taught less and they are instead taught what to think by their teachers, who are also political activists.
It's subversion, and it's a enemy tactic to destroy a nation from within.

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Iron mixed with clay, Daniel 2:41-43.

 

[Dale Gribble]

Put simply, it's about Identity Politics. In-group vs out-groups. Some people have so low self-esteem that they need to prop themselves (and their group) up and designate another (group) as bad. Others just join them because they want to fit in (and become brainwashed), or they've sadly been born into that mindset.

For racists is skin color/ethnicity vs skin color/ethnicity (neo-nazis, kkk, wokes, etc). For sexists it's sex/gender vs sex/gender (misogynists, wokes, etc), for religious people it's religion vs religion/non-religion (islam, christian sects, etc). They all think they're ubermensch vs untermench, superior vs inferior, moral vs immoral.

All the reasons they give are just excuses and tacked on after-the-fact justifications for the above.

I’m sure what you are saying is true in some cases. I don’t deny that. But I think that’s really an oversimplification. Sure I sometimes put on a caricature of the racist uneducated redneck, but it is not a lie to say each race is different. For example, the extreme amount of violence committed by black males age 18-35. Or the crookedness and subversive ways of the Jews. Or the intelligence of East Asians. Outliers exist, but as a rule of thumb, these things are true. Is it racist to recognize that?

 

[Lost-Zeneration-99]

@Dale Gribble how is pattern recognition racist as I don’t agree with how that can be racist, And I thought racist meant thinking your race was better then another race? Or has that been thrown out the window of logic nowadays?

@Houseman I can definitely see that. So it’s teaching them a romantic version of say revolution, that doesn’t show the aftermath or learn from the past and how well that turned out. I did hear something from a professor and it’s the fallacy of progress. In short don’t expect most to learn from the history as they will do the same thing. What your thoughts on this?

 

[Vendor-Lazarus]

I’m sure what you are saying is true in some cases. I don’t deny that. But I think that’s really an oversimplification. Sure I sometimes put on a caricature of the racist uneducated redneck, but it is not a lie to say each race is different. For example, the extreme amount of violence committed by black males age 18-35. Or the crookedness and subversive ways of the Jews. Or the intelligence of East Asians. Outliers exist, but as a rule of thumb, these things are true. Is it racist to recognize that?

Despite some slight small biological differences between races, what separates us are actually mostly cultural (with time and isolation).

Blacks in Africa have a tribal culture, with tribal warfare. Blacks in America have the gangsta/rap culture perpetuating crime.

Jews have their in-group thinking of being in a country but stay separate from it (like muslims), nepotism being rampant too, and they're also following their religion with regards to food and economical concerns (again, like muslims) that makes them stand out.

Asian parents are notorious for strictly raising kids to perform above and beyond, being afflicted with a status and honor mindset (Status and honor also seen in Blacks and muslims).

 

[Dale Gribble]

@Dale Gribble how is pattern recognition racist as I don’t agree with how that can be racist, And I thought racist meant thinking your race was better then another race? Or has that been thrown out the window of logic

Well, people would definitely think you’re racist for quoting crime statistics. I dunno bro, I don’t consider myself racist tbh. By someone else’s definition, probably, by my own, no. I don’t hate any other race, or anyone really. I just think whites built white nations and should be the ones in control of them. Not “the man behind the curtain”
I also think whites are under attack both literally and figuratively in western nations.

 

[Dale Gribble]

Despite some slight small biological differences between races, what separates us are actually mostly cultural (with time and isolation).

Well that’s where we disagree. I think the difference in race is more than just biological but mental too.

 

[Houseman]

@Houseman I can definitely see that. So it’s teaching them a romantic version of say revolution, that doesn’t show the aftermath or learn from the past and how well that turned out. I did hear something from a professor and it’s the fallacy of progress. In short don’t expect most to learn from the history as they will do the same thing. What your thoughts on this?

I don't know, I haven't heard of that.

For example, the extreme amount of violence committed by black males age 18-35. Or the crookedness and subversive ways of the Jews. Or the intelligence of East Asians. Outliers exist, but as a rule of thumb, these things are true. Is it racist to recognize that?

I think it would be racist to say that these things are a product of genetics alone. I would think that circumstances also play a large part. For example, Jews are only viewed as crooked and subversive because of their allegiances towards each-other. If you take a Jewish person, put them up for adoption, and have them be raised by Asian parents or something, I'm sure that person would turn out different than if he were raised by Zionist parents and groomed to be a CEO.

Take a black person and have them be raised in a white area, and teach them to reject black culture, like how I was raised, and you get someone like me.

See also the book: "Black Rednecks and White Liberals" by Thomas Sowell.

 

[Lost-Zeneration-99]

How much you guys bet we are gonna be on the J.F.B.I watch-list for this. @Houseman The idea is that progress is a illusion that progress leads to betterment of humanity, and it is always for the betterment. Never thought a bunch of guys from TOTSE would have more sense then 1/2 of the USA.

Im gonna post this because why the hell not it funny as shit.

 

[Signa]

Take a black person and have them be raised in a white area, and teach them to reject black culture, like how I was raised, and you get someone like me.

I was about to say something to this extent without singling you out. The topic always has been about culture, but some people are stupid and only see skin color. It's pretty obvious just by looking at pictures alone that I could share a beer with the guy they want to cast as Snape for the new Harry Potter show, but not some other black guy with tear drop tattoos and an eternal expression on his face that says he thinks everyone is dirt before him.

That said, the Snape guy probably would grab a bar stool and try to bash my head in for not voting for Kamala and then start sobbing.

 

[Dale Gribble]

I don't know, I haven't heard of that.


I think it would be racist to say that these things are a product of genetics alone. I would think that circumstances also play a large part. For example, Jews are only viewed as crooked and subversive because of their allegiances towards each-other. If you take a Jewish person, put them up for adoption, and have them be raised by Asian parents or something, I'm sure that person would turn out different than if he were raised by Zionist parents and groomed to be a CEO.

Take a black person and have them be raised in a white area, and teach them to reject black culture, like how I was raised, and you get someone like me.

See also the book: "Black Rednecks and White Liberals" by Thomas Sowell.

If it is cultural, how come no matter where blacks live in the world they are more violent than the native population? Wouldn’t a third generation African immigrant in Japan be significantly less violent?

Let me lay this out there in case any of you think race is just skin deep. There are documented physical differences between races just like men and women. For instance, black people build muscle faster, their bones are more dense, and have a different skull shape than any other race. So you mean to tell me that it just stops with the brain?
Well, we know that’s not true because of IQ. Each race has a different average IQ. So if race is only skin deep, and it’s culture, then how do you explain the IQ gaps?

I’m not meaning to shit on black people or anything, it’s just the race I’m most familiar with, and easiest to find statistics on.

 

[Houseman]

If it is cultural, how come no matter where blacks live in the world they are more violent than the native population? Wouldn’t a third generation African immigrant in Japan be significantly less violent?

I'd like to see the statistics on third generation African immigrants in Japan. I would imagine that would be hard to come by.

Let me lay this out there in case any of you think race is just skin deep. There are documented physical differences between races just like men and women. For instance, black people build muscle faster, their bones are more dense, and have a different skull shape than any other race. So you mean to tell me that it just stops with the brain?

There could be differences in the brain.

Well, we know that’s not true because of IQ. Each race has a different average IQ. So if race is only skin deep, and it’s culture, then how do you explain the IQ gaps?

Because culture largely correlates with race. For example, if you're gathering IQs from "black people" you're also gathering IQs from "black culture".
You would have to do some very specific selection to separate out the "black people who were raised black" and "black people who were raised white".

In the book I mentioned earlier, it is explained that African-Americans learned their current culture from white southerners. I would imagine that white southerners and white northerners are practically genetically identical.

 

[Vendor-Lazarus]

If it is cultural, how come no matter where blacks live in the world they are more violent than the native population? Wouldn’t a third generation African immigrant in Japan be significantly less violent?

Let me lay this out there in case any of you think race is just skin deep. There are documented physical differences between races just like men and women. For instance, black people build muscle faster, their bones are more dense, and have a different skull shape than any other race. So you mean to tell me that it just stops with the brain?
Well, we know that’s not true because of IQ. Each race has a different average IQ. So if race is only skin deep, and it’s culture, then how do you explain the IQ gaps?

I’m not meaning to shit on black people or anything, it’s just the race I’m most familiar with, and easiest to find statistics on.

How do you explain this whitest "black" person ever?

Many such cases can be found.

 

[Dale Gribble]

Because culture largely correlates with race. For example, if you're gathering IQs from "black people" you're also gathering IQs from "black culture".
You would have to do some very specific selection to separate out the "black people who were raised black" and "black people who were raised white".

In the book I mentioned earlier, it is explained that African-Americans learned their current culture from white southerners. I would imagine that white southerners and white northerners are practically genetically identical.

You’re close, culture comes from race. We know culture comes from race because like I was saying, you see them act the same way even though they’ve never met.

My point with the IQ gaps was to show race is more than skin deep. It’s mental too.

If American blacks learned their culture from white rednecks, then why is Africa so violent and crime ridden, like Detroit or Chicago? Wouldn’t they have unlearned it by now after all this time being around other races?

 

[Arnox]

I reject the idea that IQ tests are a valuable tool in measuring intelligence. They do measure certain commonly used faculties, yes, but the topic of human intelligence is such a broad one that trying to use mass IQ scores to definitively prove something is very often problematic. Such a thing only works when huge deltas are noticed, with a good example being the mass lead poisoning the US was getting for a while. And even with that example, there were other stand-out symptoms as well.

Going further, it's also popularly assumed that IQ stays static. It does not not, both for the individual and also for any group. Progressions and regressions are both noticed and regular.

And even further, intelligent conclusions don't necessarily require a high IQ to be reached, and utter stupidity has been exhibited in even those that people might usually consider to be highly intelligent. And if it's implied that black people commit more crimes because they're less intelligent, this doesn't track either. What a far better measurement in general for likelihood to commit crimes would be is empathy and economic security. One might be tempted to say culture as well, and while that's technically true, it's only true in terms of how much empathy is culturally being taught.

And regardless, as I said before in the past, even if it is proven that a race inherently tends to be more intelligent and/or more empathic, it's an observation with no practical purpose as you still need to judge everyone based off of their individual merits anyway.

 

[Arnox]

Never thought a bunch of guys from TOTSE would have more sense then 1/2 of the USA.

It's almost as if you don't need a fucking voting system or a moderator constantly sticking their dick into conversations in order to have a good calm discussion, even with what would be highly polarizing topics.

The modern internet has lost its way.

 

[Dale Gribble]

I reject the idea that IQ tests are a valuable tool in measuring intelligence. They do measure certain commonly used faculties, yes, but the topic of human intelligence is such a broad one that trying to use mass IQ scores to definitively prove something is very often problematic. Such a thing only works when huge deltas are noticed, with a good example being the mass lead poisoning the US was getting for a while. And even with that example, there were other stand-out symptoms as well.

Going further, it's also popularly assumed that IQ stays static. It does not not, both for the individual and also for any group. Progressions and regressions are both noticed and regular.

And even further, intelligent conclusions don't necessarily require a high IQ to be reached, and utter stupidity has been exhibited in even those that people might usually consider to be highly intelligent. And if it's implied that black people commit more crimes because they're less intelligent, this doesn't track either. What a far better measurement in general for likelihood to commit crimes would be is empathy and economic security. One might be tempted to say culture as well, and while that's technically true, it's only true in terms of how much empathy is culturally being taught.

And regardless, as I said before in the past, even if it is proven that a race inherently tends to be more intelligent and/or more empathic, it's an observation with no practical purpose as you still need to judge everyone based off of their individual merits anyway.

IQ is king in measuring intelligence. I agree someone with a 120 IQ can be dumb, but it’s the best tool we have to measure intelligence.
Progressions and regressions do happen with IQ, but minimally. Someone with a 100IQ can fluctuate +-3pts or so. Pretty much since birth your IQ is set in stone and there’s no way to significantly raise it, or lower it outside of brain damage or something.
I think black people commit more crimes because of lower impulse control and delayed gratification. The richest blacks still commit more crime than the poorest whites.
The purpose of noticing this is to point out that each race is different. People tell you race is just skin color and all that other bullshit. It is not. Aren’t y’all atheist? Don’t y’all believe in evolution? Doesn’t it make sense that as the races were separated, they evolved differently?

 

[Houseman]

You’re close, culture comes from race.

Then what is the difference between white southerners and white northerners? What is the difference between, say, the Swedes and the Norwegians, or any other two neighboring European countries?

We know culture comes from race because like I was saying, you see them act the same way even though they’ve never met.

Why don't I act like a black person from the ghetto? Are we not the same race? Why don't we have the same culture?

If American blacks learned their culture from white rednecks, then why is Africa so violent and crime ridden

Is it? I haven't seen any statistics about crime rates in Africa. Africa is a huge continent. South Africa is different from Egypt, which is different from Ghana. Each have their own culture, levels of poverty, and unique geographical problems. Each have widely different people. Just like how Koreans are different from Japanese, and are different from Chinese, there are a lot of different kinds of Africans.

 

[Signa]

IQ is king in measuring intelligence. I agree someone with a 120 IQ can be dumb, but it’s the best tool we have to measure intelligence.
Progressions and regressions do happen with IQ, but minimally. Someone with a 100IQ can fluctuate +-3pts or so. Pretty much since birth your IQ is set in stone and there’s no way to significantly raise it, or lower it outside of brain damage or something.
I think black people commit more crimes because of lower impulse control and delayed gratification. The richest blacks still commit more crime than the poorest whites.
The purpose of noticing this is to point out that each race is different. People tell you race is just skin color and all that other bullshit. It is not. Aren’t y’all atheist? Don’t y’all believe in evolution? Doesn’t it make sense that as the races were separated, they evolved differently?

Trust me, there's a pretty massive difference between someone that has 90IQ and 120IQ. When you have 120IQ, you can have some very dumb blind spots, but when you're 90IQ, things like basic trash management becomes difficult.

I've attached my roommate's room while he was renting from me. He never cleaned it up.

Oops, I meant to quote @Arnox . Dale was replying to the post I wanted.