A Blind Face In A Sea Of Faces Of A Blank Generation

[Lost-Zeneration-99]

Now I don't want this to come off as an " ThEm KIdS ArE FuKcEd AnD ArE ThE EnD Of US ALL" kind of idea since I'm part of them. So This is gonna be sort of all over the place but here we go. I been thinking on this for a while and just how different times are nowadays for Gen Zers and Millennials. I mean just common stuff is not around like getting some buddy's and going to a pool hall or arcade and enjoying the night. Only thing people do is sit at home hooked to the net or walk around and run into stuff because there they got a screen in their face. Now I been trying to cut back on the whole phone thing and holy shit this has to be what trying to get of drugs or smokes feel like. From looking at the idea of nosurf and getting into straight edge ideas in the general sense, it really makes you see life in a new way. Now I like to people watch because I like to be aware of my surroundings and it so crazy sometimes like being in the matrix or something, no one just haves conversations or say hello anymore it seems.

Now I think this is more that people has always been like this, but It almost like being a ghost of sorts, people run into each other. Hell I bet you a blind guy or low vision person can see better then these people sometimes, and oh boy do I know from experience with that. To almost getting hit by cars in the parking lot, or people in wall-mart running around like it fucking carmagedden with their buggies, with the goal "Hit everyone and the blind guy that has white and red can extra 100 points if hit". And speaking on phones nowadays it sucks when everyone is on them as I think this hits my generation more harsh as it sucks. When everyone repeats the same thing online or all they do is chase whats the new fad, and I don't really care for that as it been around for years anyway. Just holy hell it get creepy when they seem to know so much personal info on celebrities and them new pop idol things what they called? Speaking on that idols things, that got to be one of the most fucked up thing I ever seen, oh it also a bait trap for all them girls that taken to the extreme it feels almost cult like. And don't get me started on privacy, man what folks will give out nowadays. Oh and the so called counter culture that people on social media think they are the new punk. Thank god punk did die I bet all the old one are rolling in their graves.

Anyway that just I wanted to dump here.

 

[Arnox]

Show them this next time.

(https://youtu.be/4LjHnWsa2aY?t=30)

No, I don't know what Siege is.

 

[Lost-Zeneration-99]

That is a good one man, yeah it a sentiment that I feel is hard to get across it seems. It crazy to see it more in men with them being people who say they got ADHD and 50 other random mental issues that they don't have . I hate to see them try to live with I mean a real disability and I always say this, I would never wish that on my worst enemies.

 

[Arnox]

That is a good one man, yeah it a sentiment that I feel is hard to get across it seems. It crazy to see it more in men with them being people who say they got ADHD and 50 other random mental issues that they don't have . I hate to see them try to live with I mean a real disability and I always say this, I would never wish that on my worst enemies.

Ultimately, I don't think it's the kids at all. I think what we have here is a generation of parents who didn't give a shit and let popular social media replace them as parents. I am so much more mad at the parents than I am at the kids.

 

[Dale Gribble]

I know what you mean, and worse than that it extends to your coworkers and your peers your age. So that makes it very very rare that you would meet someone in a social setting you would actually like, and even more rare that they’d actually come hangout with you. I work with a guy and we always talk about fishing, he says he’s going to go to a fishing spot not too far from me, I say cool let’s meet there Saturday. So Saturday I load up my truck, get there and start fishing. Then he texts me some bs excuse that he has to take his dog to the vet and can’t make it. Why didn’t he just say he didn’t want to come in the first place? This is not an isolated incident either. Trying to get other adults to do stuff with you is like pulling teeth. I have one friend I know won’t flake out. My other close friends are dead.
But like arnox was saying, I think a lot of the blame is on the parents. My dad taught me from a young age, if I said I was going to do something, I had to do it, because I gave my word and that means something to people. Even if they don’t express it. I couldn’t imagine growing up with some faggy soy boy dad. That’s got to really be a warped perception of being a man.

 

[Lost-Zeneration-99]

That is true that the kids can’t help it. They never grew up with any other way that doesn’t revolve around how their parents raised them to be. I have some younger siblings and it’s sad just to see how different the parenting style is as they whole given a Ipad at a young age. Now what I find crazy is they all say “ of I got parental control on it so they cant see anything bad.” Sure but I don’t think a platform is gonna care that little timmy is online and play parent. It’s concerning how they basically expect millions of faceless users to raise their kids for them. That by itself is teriffying to think about

I do agree that you cant blame the kids because they don’t know any better. I remember growing up in school and this was when the I think around the same time the iPhone exploded in popularity. Crazy I think I knew some people got onto the second wave of social media apps like snapchat and all those around tail end of elementary school into
Middle school. But I was long gone from that area as I went and was homeschooled to basically catch back up as I was Learning barely anything in the public education system.

I guess around 2010 or earlier you could see the wind change of sorts and then it went from there. If you think about it most of us in my generation got it extremely early sort of, I got mine around maybe mid middle school. Yeah I do sort of regret getting one that early one as I didn’t have the maturity, or the self control. But I don’t think any of the parents had any idea of what was gonna come out of it. Because non of them knew about how the logic that the idea of a place where people can post whatever without restraint without a higher power governing the content flow.

 

[Arnox]

higher power governing the content flow.

Except there is a higher power governing the content flow... For profits.

 

[Lost-Zeneration-99]

Yes that is true with all the platforms keeping people on them jist by getting them into bubbles. It wild how good they created this to where people could live years of there lives by being stuck in virtual bubbles and tribal rules. real life is similar I guess, there is a book I found called Hate Inc. by Mark Taibbi. It covers more about the news and how they keep people addicted, but I think you can sort use the same kind of idea as most social meda or sites in general sort of use the I don’t want to say tactics but sort of.

 

[Houseman]

Friends Without Faces
by Thomas Teague
We sit and we type,
and we stare at our screens,
We all have to wonder,
what this possibly means.
With our mouse we roam,
through the rooms in a maze,
Looking for something or someone,
as we sit in a daze.

We chat with each other,
we type all our woes,
Small groups we do form,
and gang up on our foes.
We wait for somebody,
to type out our name,
We want recognition,
but it is always the same.

We give kisses and hugs,
and sometimes flirt,
In IMs we chat deeply,
and reveal why we hurt.
We do form friendships
- but - why we don't know,
But some of these friendships,
will flourish and grow.

Why is it on screen,
we can be so bold,
Telling our secrets,
that have never been told.
Why is it we share,
the thoughts in our mind,
With those we can't see,
as though we were blind.

The answer is simple,
it is as clear as a bell.
We all have our problems,
and need someone to tell.
We can't tell "real" people,
but tell someone we must,
So we turn to the 'puter,
and to those we can trust.

Even though it is crazy,
the truth still remains,
They are Friends Without Faces,
and odd little names.

 

[Gauche]

What a shit poem

 

[Vendor-Lazarus]

It's a good poem.

 

[Houseman]

It's pretty old, I read it when I was like 13, so it's set in a time before iPhones.

 

[Dom]

I can relate. I was raised in a house where we couldn't go outside without supervision until we were teenagers.
The exception was, we could play if there were neighbor kids outside, but just in front of the house, not around the corner. It really limited my ability to meet new people and talk to them. There were no cellphones or internet back then, so we were bored much of the time. I couldn't walk to the library, so I was dependent on Mom driving us there, which thankfully happened somewhat often. I would have gone there a lot more, and spent more time, if I could come and go on my own.

It makes me wonder, do children really inherently want to be on social media so much? Or would they rather go outside and play, but are unable to do so?

 

[Lost-Zeneration-99]

You know im not really sure. I have noticed that more around your mid 20s folks have started backing away from Social Media, but I think the teens is a different story. I actually don’t think kids can help it to be honest because isn’t the kids now getting ipads and that stuff put in their faces as the”babysitter”?

I sort of forgot I posted this here for some reason, I guess it’s the age talking.

 

[Dale Gribble]

My brother in law (and actually a friend of mine) are both young guys, nice guys both have decent jobs, both good looking men, but neither have a wife/gf and both refuse to use dating apps. I asked them how else are they going to meet women and they both just shrugged. I have also heard 1/3 of young men are involuntary celibate. Not only that but a lot of young men are not even attempting to date. Do y’all think that’s correct?

I know it’s easy to get black pilled about dating and women, but hey I figured it out. The uneducated, broke, semi attractive redneck. So it can’t be that hard. You just got to do it, and improve yourself.

 

[Arnox]

My brother in law (and actually a friend of mine) are both young guys, nice guys both have decent jobs, both good looking men, but neither have a wife/gf and both refuse to use dating apps. I asked them how else are they going to meet women and they both just shrugged. I have also heard 1/3 of young men are involuntary celibate. Not only that but a lot of young men are not even attempting to date. Do y’all think that’s correct?

Couldn't say, but I can tell you most all dating apps these days are scams. You'd have far better luck just joining a Discord server of your interest and looking for someone there. If you're in a big enough city, you can also go to clubs and local meet-ups or take a class. This is, in my opinion, the best way to meet new people and find a partner. MMO guilds are also a great way to find someone as well.

 

[Dale Gribble]

Couldn't say, but I can tell you most all dating apps these days are scams. You'd have far better luck just joining a Discord server of your interest and looking for someone there. If you're in a big enough city, you can also go to clubs and local meet-ups or take a class. This is, in my opinion, the best way to meet new people and find a partner. MMO guilds are also a great way to find someone as well.

I actually met my wife on a dating app

 

[Arnox]

I actually met my wife on a dating app

How long ago?

 

[Dale Gribble]

How long ago?

About 12 years

 

[Arnox]

About 12 years

Yeah, that's why. Dating apps stopped being useful when they figured out it was more profitable to keep people perpetually single.

 

[Dom]

Now I think this is more that people has always been like this, but It almost like being a ghost of sorts, people run into each other. Hell I bet you a blind guy or low vision person can see better then these people sometimes, and oh boy do I know from experience with that.

I think it is partly caused by whether the person, in childhood, is or is not constantly accompanied by adults. If so, then the adults do the watching and navigating, and the child merely follows, or has his hand held. Once I was walking to the library and a kid, about 8 or so, nearly ran into me. He was following his Mom and looking mostly at the ground. If that kid had been unsupervised, he would have to look up to see his surroundings in order to navigate.

How do kids even learn how to navigate if they are always herded around by adults? I knew a guy in his early twenties who would be so lost without his phone, he had to bum power (from a power outlet) from stores and even random passers-by because he could not find his own way home if his phone battery died. He always carried a phone charger and cord around. He got lost multiple times due to this, and was forced to wander the streets late at night looking for power.

 

[Dom]

[...] real life is similar I guess, there is a book I found called Hate Inc. by Mark Taibbi. It covers more about the news and how they keep people addicted [...]

Could you tell us a bit more about that book? It sounds frighteningly real.

I read a book called "Bad News" by Batya Ungar-Sargon. The first two chapters are a fascinating story on the origins of the modern news, starting with the Daily Sun, a popular penny paper in New York that started in 1833. The story continues all the way to the modern day, when the newspapers changed strategy to appeal almost exclusively to an affluent, and increasingly woke and liberal readership, completely ignoring the working poor and ignoring or denigrating trade unions.

 

[Dom]

You know im not really sure. I have noticed that more around your mid 20s folks have started backing away from Social Media, but I think the teens is a different story. I actually don’t think kids can help it to be honest because isn’t the kids now getting ipads and that stuff put in their faces as the”babysitter”?

I agree. And why are the kids getting an electronic babysitter in the first place? Why do kids need a babysitter? Kids in the 1970's (and before) who were older than 7 or 8 were allowed to travel all over town on their own, with no adult supervision, as long as it was daylight. Even the younger kids could go outside as long as they were in a group. Only the toddlers were kept close to home.

As far as I know, children are only restricted in the U.S.A. and possibly Canada, since the early 1980's.

This is a good question to bring up in conversations. Ask people: "When you were a kid, were you allowed to travel all over town with no adult supervision, as long as it was daylight?"
I have asked about a half-dozen people so far, and everyone over the age of about 50 said they could go anywhere. All the people under 40 said they were not allowed out. One guy who was born in late 1975 said he could go three blocks away only if his Mom was home.

 

[Lost-Zeneration-99]

Could you tell us a bit more about that book? It sounds frighteningly real.

So the book from what I gathered started out on his newsletter and then he turned it into the book. The basic idea is him looking back on his career in the news business and basically spilling all the tricks the media loves to use. Fear mongering to the satanic panic. He does make some point at Trump but they ate more criticism of his stage presence as he uses it as a leway into explaining how the news became performative instead of boring and informative. I would highly recommend it just keep a little open mind on the subject matter. As he goes for the throat at times on it as it should be in my opinion. Here is the good reads summary as it was the only decent one I could find.

Hate Inc.: Why Today's Media Makes Us Despise One Anoth…

Part tirade, part confessional from the celebrated Roll…

www.goodreads.com