Do any of you know any fictional languages?

[Arnox]

A bit of a shot in the dark here, but you never know.

By the way, a fictional language would be something like Elvish, Atlantean, Klingon, etc.

INB4 Gauche comes in here and tries to troll with some language he completely pulled out of his ass.

 

[Drathnoxis]

I'm fluent in Pig Latin.

 

[Gauche]

I got nothin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_translations_into_fictional_languages

 

[JamesTaiclet]

Hello,

Would you argue that "programming" languages are fictional? Since they are an entirely artificial lexicon created by humans, they would fit the definition of "fictional," since they have never been spoken by a real group of humans. It even contains the first instance of translation from one fake language to another, with all compiled languages being converted into assembler instructions.

Yours,
James Taiclet

 

[Arnox]

Hello,

Would you argue that "programming" languages are fictional? Since they are an entirely artificial lexicon created by humans, they would fit the definition of "fictional," since they have never been spoken by a real group of humans. It even contains the first instance of translation from one fake language to another, with all compiled languages being converted into assembler instructions.

Yours,
James Taiclet

That's actually an interesting question. Programming languages would fall under the "constructed languages" category but wouldn't fall under the deeper sub-category of "fictional languages." Most of them are usually a (heavily grammatically modified) variant of English as well.

Perhaps the biggest issue with them though is that programming languages can't really be spoken at all.

-- Haskell
main :: IO ()
main = putStrLn "Hello, World!"

Doesn't really roll off the tongue, as you can see.

I got nothin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_translations_into_fictional_languages

Pick your favorite.

 

[Gauche]

Pick your favorite.

Boóbin

 

[Battousai]

That's actually an interesting question. Programming languages would fall under the "constructed languages"

So does Tolkien's elvish, it is fictional only the sense that its spoken in a fantasy novel. However it is a constructed language that you can actually learn to speak, 2 of them as a matter of fact you got Quenya which would be classical/ancient elvish and Sindarin whish is more of a common elvish speech. Tolkien was a professional philologist after all, he constructed the whole thing quite nicely. He didn't really develop Dwarven or Black Speech but the few phrases and words we got are based on real world languages with a few changes.

 

[Arnox]

So does Tolkien's elvish, it is fictional only the sense that its spoken in a fantasy novel. However it is a constructed language that you can actually learn to speak, 2 of them as a matter of fact you got Quenya which would be classical/ancient elvish and Sindarin whish is more of a common elvish speech. Tolkien was a professional philologist after all, he constructed the whole thing quite nicely. He didn't really develop Dwarven or Black Speech but the few phrases and words we got are based on real world languages with a few changes.

Sorry, I should have said that fictional languages are constructed languages developed to expand a creative work. A programming language is a brutally practical written-only language that is devised for machines to be able to translate into machine code instructions.

Also, doing some reading on Quenya. It is, sadly, more incomplete and messy than I would have thought since Tolkien was endlessly experimenting with it and revising it all the way up until he died, although the work of many philologists along with some help by Christopher Tolkien was able to beat the language into final shape.

 

[Vendor-Lazarus]

I did learn quite a bit of Klingon when I was younger (and Esperanto), but I've forgotten most of it. I do still speak Rövarspråket though.

 

[Arnox]

I did learn quite a bit of Klingon when I was younger (and Esperanto), but I've forgotten most of it. I do still speak Rövarspråket though.

What's your opinion on Klingon and Esperanto? Worth learning, or don't waste your time?

 

[Vendor-Lazarus]

What's your opinion on Klingon and Esperanto? Worth learning, or don't waste your time?

Klingon isn't worth learning, but Esperanto could be. Especially as it blends Germanic and Roman langauges together.

 

[Arnox]

Klingon isn't worth learning, but Esperanto could be. Especially as it blends Germanic and Roman langauges together.

Why do you say that? Asking for both languages I mean.

 

[Vendor-Lazarus]

Why do you say that? Asking for both languages I mean.

Klingon might sound cool, but it's highly niche. Potentially it could be a way to also learn more applicable and useful languages, if you have a high passion just for Klingon, as learning different grammar and such helps with other languages as well.

Esperanto can be seen as a key to unlock the ability to speak many other languages, as it is based on actual languages.

 

[Drathnoxis]

What's your opinion on Klingon and Esperanto? Worth learning, or don't waste your time?

Why would it ever be worth learning a language that nobody speaks or has ever spoken? Frankly, I barely see the value in learning other languages at all, but at least a real language does open up some options.

 

[Arnox]

Why would it ever be worth learning a language that nobody speaks or has ever spoken? Frankly, I barely see the value in learning other languages at all, but at least a real language does open up some options.

Yeah, when it comes to raw practicality, English is really hard to beat. It's spoken almost everywhere, it's used effectively in artistic works, it slices, it dices, and even does your laundry! (Not really.) I will defend Elvish (or more properly, Quenya) though. Of all the fictional languages, Quenya was designed and worked on for many years by a stone cold professional in linguistics to be an incredibly beautiful graceful language. In fact, the language came before even The Hobbit was written, though admittedly in a rough unrefined form. And further, after Tolkien died, it was worked on by other linguistics experts and the Tolkien family to better develop it. It may still be a fictional language at the end of the day, but it's also probably the most mature of them all outside of maybe Na'vi.

I wouldn't learn Quenya just to speak it constantly everyday, but I would want to learn it to apply it contextually in appropriate situations. For example, if I was writing a poem in honor of someone who died, or if I simply just wanted to sprinkle some Quenya in to style things up a bit in casual conversation. In summary though, Quenya is a purpose-built beautiful language to express beautiful and arcane things. It certainly doesn't match every situation, but it is another linguistic tool one can use for better expression in some contexts. And even if someone had no idea what you had said, they can still appreciate the beauty of the words said at least.

Hantale an lasta.

 

[Vendor-Lazarus]

Hantale an lasta.

This auto-translates into Turkish, meaning "Champagne and cake"... ?

 

[Arnox]

This auto-translates into Turkish, meaning "Champagne and cake"... ?

It's bad Quenya meaning, "Thanks for listening." "Hantale" should really be, "Hantal," which would then read as, "Hantal an lasta," meaning, "Thank you for listening," but I didn't catch it until later.

 

[Vendor-Lazarus]

It's bad Quenya meaning, "Thanks for listening." "Hantale" should really be, "Hantal," which would then read as, "Hantal an lasta," meaning, "Thank you for listening," but I didn't catch it until later.

Tothohanonkok you foforor lolisostotenoninongog.

 

[Arnox]

Tothohanonkok you foforor lolisostotenoninongog.

Heh, this one had me in the first half, not gonna lie. It's a slightly coded way of saying, "Thanks for listening." What is the name of this kind of code?

 

[Drathnoxis]

Heh, this one had me in the first half, not gonna lie. It's a slightly coded way of saying, "Thanks for listening." What is the name of this kind of code?

I think he had a stroke.

 

[Vendor-Lazarus]

Heh, this one had me in the first half, not gonna lie. It's a slightly coded way of saying, "Thanks for listening." What is the name of this kind of code?

Rövarspråket. Robber/bandit speech basically. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronia,_the_Robber's_Daughter?useskin=vector