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<p>[QUOTE="Arnox, post: 13028, member: 1"]</p><p>The problem though is that AI isn't just accelerating work, it's almost completely doing ALL of it. Hell, the only thing AI can't do at this point is manual labor. And that's ONLY because it's not (yet) economical to completely replace everyone with robots. And this mass takeover of labor may not happen now or in 5 years, or maybe even 20 years, but eventually, it will happen, and here's the clencher. Given the current state of the world, we are completely ill-prepared to stave off a complete dystopia. And not the fun little Perfect Dark/Ghost in the Shell fun-with-body-augments dystopia. No. We're gonna get fucking 1984, or something very close to it.</p><p></p><p>I'm not just talking about Stable Diffusion here or ChatGPT or robotics or etc. This is everything culminating together in a horrid way due both to the complete shortsightedness of developers and the irresponsibility and greed of politicians and the upper class. And THAT is what I'm talking about. THAT is why I feel so leery about personally endorsing this stuff in any way whatsoever.</p><p></p><p>...</p><p></p><p>Sorry, I know you didn't ask for an essay on Dystopia 2.0: Electric Boogaloo, but in order to explain the thought process here, I had to get into it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>lol I should say, I'm not questioning whether I should let these super dangerous secrets of SD out into the wild. Obviously they're been around for a while, albeit scattered all over. The cat's out of the bag and out the door. But the question remains, is it a good idea for me personally to support these tools and their use in any way?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Now this...</p><p></p><p>I said SD makes me uncomfortable, but deep fakes freak me the fuck out. How long is it gonna be now until NOTHING anymore is verifiable and we have to completely depend on witnesses? How long is it gonna be until a deep fake (or probably multiple ones) is used to convict someone of something they didn't do or say?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>May be way too late for that now. SD is open source and the full models have also been released into the wild. At this point, how would they even try to shut it down? They could probably make some lame attempt to ban it from the major platforms, but we both know that that isn't going to do jack shit.</p><p></p><p>-</p><p></p><p>EDIT: Thinking about this reply for a little bit, I might have to admit I went somewhat overboard here, but I'll let people reply first if they want to before I post further.</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="Arnox, post: 13028, member: 1"] The problem though is that AI isn't just accelerating work, it's almost completely doing ALL of it. Hell, the only thing AI can't do at this point is manual labor. And that's ONLY because it's not (yet) economical to completely replace everyone with robots. And this mass takeover of labor may not happen now or in 5 years, or maybe even 20 years, but eventually, it will happen, and here's the clencher. Given the current state of the world, we are completely ill-prepared to stave off a complete dystopia. And not the fun little Perfect Dark/Ghost in the Shell fun-with-body-augments dystopia. No. We're gonna get fucking 1984, or something very close to it. I'm not just talking about Stable Diffusion here or ChatGPT or robotics or etc. This is everything culminating together in a horrid way due both to the complete shortsightedness of developers and the irresponsibility and greed of politicians and the upper class. And THAT is what I'm talking about. THAT is why I feel so leery about personally endorsing this stuff in any way whatsoever. ... Sorry, I know you didn't ask for an essay on Dystopia 2.0: Electric Boogaloo, but in order to explain the thought process here, I had to get into it. lol I should say, I'm not questioning whether I should let these super dangerous secrets of SD out into the wild. Obviously they're been around for a while, albeit scattered all over. The cat's out of the bag and out the door. But the question remains, is it a good idea for me personally to support these tools and their use in any way? Now this... I said SD makes me uncomfortable, but deep fakes freak me the fuck out. How long is it gonna be now until NOTHING anymore is verifiable and we have to completely depend on witnesses? How long is it gonna be until a deep fake (or probably multiple ones) is used to convict someone of something they didn't do or say? May be way too late for that now. SD is open source and the full models have also been released into the wild. At this point, how would they even try to shut it down? They could probably make some lame attempt to ban it from the major platforms, but we both know that that isn't going to do jack shit. - EDIT: Thinking about this reply for a little bit, I might have to admit I went somewhat overboard here, but I'll let people reply first if they want to before I post further. [/QUOTE]
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