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<p>[QUOTE="Houseman, post: 3805, member: 7"]</p><p>Yes, my mom at least. She took me to the meetings.</p><p></p><p>The tribes of Israel are symbolic in the sense that:</p><p>1) The tribes listed in Revelation don't match up with actual tribes of Israel listed earlier in the bible, so it would have been impossible to gather people from a tribe that didn't exist.</p><p>2) Literal Israel was disinherited, and a new spiritual Israel was created. Before that point, Jesus and his disciples only preached to Jews, but after that, salvation was opened up to everybody. These 144,000 are collected from every "tribe, nation, and tongue" , as it says in Revelation 5: 9,10</p><p></p><p></p><p>If it were literal Israel and not "spiritual Israel", yes, that would be the case.</p><p></p><p>On a related note, after the preaching-to-non-jews thing started, the early jews-turned-christians still had some lingering racism. This can be read in the bible, after the gospels.</p><p></p><p>No.</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="Houseman, post: 3805, member: 7"] Yes, my mom at least. She took me to the meetings. The tribes of Israel are symbolic in the sense that: 1) The tribes listed in Revelation don't match up with actual tribes of Israel listed earlier in the bible, so it would have been impossible to gather people from a tribe that didn't exist. 2) Literal Israel was disinherited, and a new spiritual Israel was created. Before that point, Jesus and his disciples only preached to Jews, but after that, salvation was opened up to everybody. These 144,000 are collected from every "tribe, nation, and tongue" , as it says in Revelation 5: 9,10 If it were literal Israel and not "spiritual Israel", yes, that would be the case. On a related note, after the preaching-to-non-jews thing started, the early jews-turned-christians still had some lingering racism. This can be read in the bible, after the gospels. No. [/QUOTE]
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