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<p>[QUOTE="Arnox, post: 11262, member: 1"]</p><p>Uploading a video to the official Sanctuary channel about why free speech forums fail...</p><p></p><p><img src="/public/RisitasEmote.png" class="smilie" alt=":risitas:" title="Risitas :risitas:" data-shortname=":risitas:" /></p><p></p><p>That's ballsy, Houseman. Real ballsy. But I like it.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, I do have a fair few things to disagree with in this video even though I agree with it at its core.</p><p></p><p>1. Many of the alternative sites you mentioned were never really free speech forums. Especially Parler. Some of them paid lip service to it but were grossly hypocritical and were just as censorious as Twitter, but against a different set of people. In terms of the niche that we at Sanctuary fill, we are actually pretty alone in both a great and depressing way. Mostly depressing though.</p><p></p><p>2. Attracting "undesirable" people only was actually a problem we ACUTELY had back when Sanctuary first started. Since they couldn't behave themselves in any capacity though, they got dumped hard. With that said, it could still happen that we attract a bunch more racists, bigots, neo-nazis (ACTUAL neo-nazis), and etc. While I don't actually care that they're on Sanctuary personally even though I obviously would vehemently disagree with their extreme views, what definitely does bother me about them is that they will make the forum look pretty unattractive to others as pointed out in the video. But here's the thing. If we can reach a critical mass of "normal" users, this will really start to matter a lot less, but until that point is reached, I hate to say it, but I feel I gotta curate users at least somewhat. An idea I had long ago to work against this was to temporarily turn the forums off and then invite others manually to the site until we reached enough users to launch again. This would have made sure we would get a variety of opinions while still avoiding getting a bunch of extremists when we're just starting out, but if I recall correctly, nobody really wanted to do that at the time, so it was shelved.</p><p></p><p>3. In this day and age, everyone has gotten too used to not having their beliefs challenged, so that is definitely a factor, but as the site becomes more and more popular, and as users see what can be accomplished as a community when we put aside our bubbles, this sort of mentality should really begin to disappear, which is one of the great dreams of Sanctuary. I've seen it happen though and I'm sure it can happen again.</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="Arnox, post: 11262, member: 1"] Uploading a video to the official Sanctuary channel about why free speech forums fail... :risitas: That's ballsy, Houseman. Real ballsy. But I like it. Anyway, I do have a fair few things to disagree with in this video even though I agree with it at its core. 1. Many of the alternative sites you mentioned were never really free speech forums. Especially Parler. Some of them paid lip service to it but were grossly hypocritical and were just as censorious as Twitter, but against a different set of people. In terms of the niche that we at Sanctuary fill, we are actually pretty alone in both a great and depressing way. Mostly depressing though. 2. Attracting "undesirable" people only was actually a problem we ACUTELY had back when Sanctuary first started. Since they couldn't behave themselves in any capacity though, they got dumped hard. With that said, it could still happen that we attract a bunch more racists, bigots, neo-nazis (ACTUAL neo-nazis), and etc. While I don't actually care that they're on Sanctuary personally even though I obviously would vehemently disagree with their extreme views, what definitely does bother me about them is that they will make the forum look pretty unattractive to others as pointed out in the video. But here's the thing. If we can reach a critical mass of "normal" users, this will really start to matter a lot less, but until that point is reached, I hate to say it, but I feel I gotta curate users at least somewhat. An idea I had long ago to work against this was to temporarily turn the forums off and then invite others manually to the site until we reached enough users to launch again. This would have made sure we would get a variety of opinions while still avoiding getting a bunch of extremists when we're just starting out, but if I recall correctly, nobody really wanted to do that at the time, so it was shelved. 3. In this day and age, everyone has gotten too used to not having their beliefs challenged, so that is definitely a factor, but as the site becomes more and more popular, and as users see what can be accomplished as a community when we put aside our bubbles, this sort of mentality should really begin to disappear, which is one of the great dreams of Sanctuary. I've seen it happen though and I'm sure it can happen again. [/QUOTE]
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