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<p>[QUOTE="Houseman, post: 12405, member: 7"]</p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 26px"><span style="color: rgb(65, 168, 95)">The argument:</span></span></strong></p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=twitter]1545429486396755968[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 26px"><span style="color: rgb(65, 168, 95)"><strong>The rebuttal:</strong></span></span></p><p>Governor. Have you read the ruling? Do you know WHY the court decided this way?</p><p></p><p>Because those drop-boxes were NEVER LEGAL IN THE FIRST PLACE. They're not suddenly now illegal. They weren't legal before. They weren't a long-standing institution that was suddenly struck down by lobbyists with an agenda. They weren't legal <em>ever</em>.</p><p></p><p>Here's what happened.</p><p></p><p>Some election official, who isn't allowed to make or change laws, just unilaterally declared that people should put their votes in drop-boxes, and then everyone just went along with it.</p><p></p><p>But how elections are run is a matter of law. If the law says you have to hand it in personally, or mail it in yourself, that's what you have to do. You can't just make stuff up.</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.wicourts.gov/sc/opinion/DisplayDocument.pdf?content=pdf&seqNo=542617">All of this is on the first three or four pages of the actual ruling</a>, Governor, you should read it sometime.</p><p></p><p>The mean 'ol republican party isn't suppressing voters. They're holding everyone accountable to the actual laws on the books. The law says what it says, and it doesn't allow for unmanned drop-boxes.</p><p></p><p>You want unmanned drop-boxes? Okay great! Here's what you do: CODIFY IT INTO LAW THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE! You know, the only people who are allowed to make laws? You can have your drop-boxes back, if it goes through the proper democratic law-making process that all other laws are subject to.</p><p></p><p>And what are you even talking about "politicians" for? What politicians were involved in this whole affair? Judges issued this ruling. The voters brought up this issue. The election commission was the defendant. No politicians were involved in this. Don't blame mysterious unnamed "politicians". Blame Meagan Wolfe, the Wisconsin Elections Commission administrator, for directing everyone to set up dropboxes even though that was never legal.</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="Houseman, post: 12405, member: 7"] [B][SIZE=26px][COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]The argument:[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B] [MEDIA=twitter]1545429486396755968[/MEDIA] [SIZE=26px][COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)][B]The rebuttal:[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE] Governor. Have you read the ruling? Do you know WHY the court decided this way? Because those drop-boxes were NEVER LEGAL IN THE FIRST PLACE. They're not suddenly now illegal. They weren't legal before. They weren't a long-standing institution that was suddenly struck down by lobbyists with an agenda. They weren't legal [I]ever[/I]. Here's what happened. Some election official, who isn't allowed to make or change laws, just unilaterally declared that people should put their votes in drop-boxes, and then everyone just went along with it. But how elections are run is a matter of law. If the law says you have to hand it in personally, or mail it in yourself, that's what you have to do. You can't just make stuff up. [URL='https://www.wicourts.gov/sc/opinion/DisplayDocument.pdf?content=pdf&seqNo=542617']All of this is on the first three or four pages of the actual ruling[/URL], Governor, you should read it sometime. The mean 'ol republican party isn't suppressing voters. They're holding everyone accountable to the actual laws on the books. The law says what it says, and it doesn't allow for unmanned drop-boxes. You want unmanned drop-boxes? Okay great! Here's what you do: CODIFY IT INTO LAW THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE! You know, the only people who are allowed to make laws? You can have your drop-boxes back, if it goes through the proper democratic law-making process that all other laws are subject to. And what are you even talking about "politicians" for? What politicians were involved in this whole affair? Judges issued this ruling. The voters brought up this issue. The election commission was the defendant. No politicians were involved in this. Don't blame mysterious unnamed "politicians". Blame Meagan Wolfe, the Wisconsin Elections Commission administrator, for directing everyone to set up dropboxes even though that was never legal. [/QUOTE]
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