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So my brother asked me a while back if I wanted to go see this movie. Not really, but I like going to the movies. There are a few things I learned about this movie before heading in. 1, it's based off a book, Mickey 7. The movie is titled Mickey 17. Both are about a crewman of a colony ship that gets resurrected every time he diesn and thus exists for the suicidal jobs no one else wants to do. 2, this movie was very anti-Trump and Anti-Christian, but the movie utterly stank in their criticisms of both. TLDR: the book is okay with a dissapointing ending, the movie is a flaming pile of crap.
I actually decided to read the first 100 pages of the book right before heading in to see the movie. After finishing the book, I can say that the movie makes me angry. Supposedly the author approved of the movie, and my response to that is "did he have a gun to his head at the time?" There are several key factors of the movie that are completely absent in the book. In addition, one of the main characters personality traits was stripped from the movie purely because the director wanted to make a connection to modern politics. In the book, everyone is so far removed from Earth politics that they don't give a fuck.
Obviously the first thing to notice is that Mickey, the main character is about 10 iterations beyond what the book had him at. I really didn't see any point to this, other than for the director to throw in a montage of the main character dying over and over again. Another thing I noticed, the main antagonist, who in the movie is supposed to represent Trump, is completely different in the book. The movie also changed the first name, so that's an easy way to distinguish the two characters. Hieronymous Marshall, the character in the book, is described as having a steel rod for a spine, being very militaristic in behavior and attitude. By comparison, Kenneth Marshall, played by Mark Ruffalo, is shown as a weak, sickly, frail old man who is wholly controlled by his crazy wife. How was Hieronymous' wife? She didn't exist. The wife of the main antagonist was completely fabricated by the director. Oddly enough, I'd say that the portrayal of Kenneth Marshall gits better with Joe Biden than Donald Trump.
There's an odd fixation with sex in the movie as well. The main character goes on and on with this love interest about all their sex. In the book, there's only one brief sexual encounter, which is brought to an end very quickly and doesn't elaborate on the details.
There are quite a few things in the movie that aren't in the book at all. The duplicate's murderous tendencies, the best friend's drug dealing, the wife's odd 'sauce' fascination, all absent from the book. There's also several serious changes as well. In the story, the man responsible for figuring out how to load memories into a copy of oneself is an insane psychopath, but with two very different backstories. Being as the movie has to tie everything in with modern politics, this colony needed to be launched from earth, which royally screws with the book's story. In the book, they are already several colonized planets deep, with a lot of attention focused on that fact. So in the movie, the psychopath copies himself so he has an alibi for serial murder. In the book, the psychopath moves to a colony and replaces the entire population with copies of himself, looking to do the same to every colonized planet, and is only stopped by glassing his whole planet. Far more impactful than just a serial killer.
In the movie, the main character is running away from a murderous loan shark. The loan shark exists in the book, too, but is the complete opposite of his movie rendition, not really caring about the people so long as he gets his money back.
The ending can sum it up pretty good. In the book, Hieronymous survives, but in the movie, Kenneth is blown to smithereens. As a note, this movie was supposed to co.e out in 2024, but was delayed due to the SAG-AFTRA strikes. It "predicts" thelat Kenneth Marshall, AKA "Trump" lost the election a second time and led a colony ship with his supporters to set up his utopia on another planet. Obviously, the director got it very wrong.
I actually decided to read the first 100 pages of the book right before heading in to see the movie. After finishing the book, I can say that the movie makes me angry. Supposedly the author approved of the movie, and my response to that is "did he have a gun to his head at the time?" There are several key factors of the movie that are completely absent in the book. In addition, one of the main characters personality traits was stripped from the movie purely because the director wanted to make a connection to modern politics. In the book, everyone is so far removed from Earth politics that they don't give a fuck.
Obviously the first thing to notice is that Mickey, the main character is about 10 iterations beyond what the book had him at. I really didn't see any point to this, other than for the director to throw in a montage of the main character dying over and over again. Another thing I noticed, the main antagonist, who in the movie is supposed to represent Trump, is completely different in the book. The movie also changed the first name, so that's an easy way to distinguish the two characters. Hieronymous Marshall, the character in the book, is described as having a steel rod for a spine, being very militaristic in behavior and attitude. By comparison, Kenneth Marshall, played by Mark Ruffalo, is shown as a weak, sickly, frail old man who is wholly controlled by his crazy wife. How was Hieronymous' wife? She didn't exist. The wife of the main antagonist was completely fabricated by the director. Oddly enough, I'd say that the portrayal of Kenneth Marshall gits better with Joe Biden than Donald Trump.
There's an odd fixation with sex in the movie as well. The main character goes on and on with this love interest about all their sex. In the book, there's only one brief sexual encounter, which is brought to an end very quickly and doesn't elaborate on the details.
There are quite a few things in the movie that aren't in the book at all. The duplicate's murderous tendencies, the best friend's drug dealing, the wife's odd 'sauce' fascination, all absent from the book. There's also several serious changes as well. In the story, the man responsible for figuring out how to load memories into a copy of oneself is an insane psychopath, but with two very different backstories. Being as the movie has to tie everything in with modern politics, this colony needed to be launched from earth, which royally screws with the book's story. In the book, they are already several colonized planets deep, with a lot of attention focused on that fact. So in the movie, the psychopath copies himself so he has an alibi for serial murder. In the book, the psychopath moves to a colony and replaces the entire population with copies of himself, looking to do the same to every colonized planet, and is only stopped by glassing his whole planet. Far more impactful than just a serial killer.
In the movie, the main character is running away from a murderous loan shark. The loan shark exists in the book, too, but is the complete opposite of his movie rendition, not really caring about the people so long as he gets his money back.
The ending can sum it up pretty good. In the book, Hieronymous survives, but in the movie, Kenneth is blown to smithereens. As a note, this movie was supposed to co.e out in 2024, but was delayed due to the SAG-AFTRA strikes. It "predicts" thelat Kenneth Marshall, AKA "Trump" lost the election a second time and led a colony ship with his supporters to set up his utopia on another planet. Obviously, the director got it very wrong.
