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Free Speech Hypocrites: The Quartering

Arnox

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Before I launch into any of this, I want to put out a few disclaimers.

1. I do NOT condone harassment of the individual listed here.
2. This is not the kind of callout article where I'm mad that Jeremy is an evil liar and should be censored. I mean, it would be hilariously ironic if he was censored, but we'll get into that soon enough.
3. Jeremy has sometimes been the one that reports on news stories that others simply don't, and I appreciate that. I don't agree with some of his sensationalistic videos and views, but there you go.

Anyway, onto the incident. I am going to be kind of verbose here, but I want to be as accurate as I can, so bear with me. If you just want the TL;DR version though, I posted a bunch of comments on a video from the Quartering (a supposedly big proponent of free speech on the internet) and I get a ton of them deleted almost the same day. Sent three emails to get in touch and (mostly) didn't get a reply back.

On January 19th, Jeremy posted this video. Nothing too important. Just another person hating on Star Wars: TLJ. Whatever. I posted some comments in defense of the film and go on with my day. Now, it's January 20th. Next day. I sign on and look at some of the replies to my comments and someone asks me what the hell I was talking about in one of my comments in defense of TLJ. Confused, I looked at the comment thread and lo and behold, my comment got deleted. And that wasn't all. All of my posts which had a video link to back up what I was saying was deleted.

But hey, let's not jump to conclusions. Maybe this was just some YouTube bullshit. Maybe... But when I post the comment again with the link, it gets deleted again. And I know it posted before. The comment is clearly listed in my comment notifications and when I check on the comment thread, but it's not there when I view it in an incognito window. Proof can be found here:

Signed on:

Not signed on:

Signed on:

Not signed on:

Fine then. So I looked on Jeremy's profile for his contact email and emailed him, asking if this was the email for public inquiries. I get a "What's up?" in reply. Alright. So I send this email exactly:

Alright, so first, a bit of background. I've been a steady viewer of the Quartering for a while. I should say, I don't necessarily agree with everything you opine on, but you've covered many news stories that others simply don't, and, most relevantly, you've been a big supporter of free speech as an ideal. Now before I go into what I really have to say, am I mistaken in my perception of you and/or the Quartering channel?
No response. On the 22nd, I sent a followup email, asking if the email I sent in reply got lost. I wait three more days. No reply again. And at this point now, it's pretty clear he doesn't give a fuck anymore. Which brings us now.

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You know, this kind of behavior from people who say they support free speech as an ideal pisses me the fuck off. It's one thing to get censored at the Escapist leftist paradise. At the very least they're honest about their censorship. But from these people? Fuck off. Just fuck off. I've been in this game for little over a decade now and it's so fucking hard to get your voice out there. To be a supporter of free speech and still have an audience. And here, we have one of the people that actually DOES have an audience, and he pulls this shit.

Now some people may say, "Arnox, it's just a dumb video about movies. Who cares what he did in the comment section?" But that's the thing. It's the principle. You can't just call out people like the Quartering does on literally a daily basis for not being supporters of free speech and protesting against censorship and then do the VERY THING YOU PREACH AGAINST in your very own comment section. And especially a comment section about some fucking movie of all things. If you think this is acceptable, I don't know what the hell else you think is acceptable, and it calls into question everything else you've said and done.

Anyway, that's all I got. Epyc Wynn may have been a troll, but he was sort of right about one thing. There are indeed some asshole hypocrites who preach freedom of speech but go against the same in action.

If Jeremy ever does manage to get off his ass and email me back, I'll post an update about it here.
 
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Houseman

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It's more likely that comments with links in them are shadow-removed. If they weren't, then everybody would be using them to spam "hey watch my video" and then link their own content.

Googling "can I add a link in a youtube comment" brings up years-old stuff, so it's not very helpful to answer this one way or the other.
BUT you can try it on your own videos. Test it out. Post a youtube or any other link through an alt account, then look in incognito mode. Bonus, you might get a notification that a link was removed or caught in the spam filter.
 

Arnox

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It's more likely that comments with links in them are shadow-removed. If they weren't, then everybody would be using them to spam "hey watch my video" and then link their own content.

Googling "can I add a link in a youtube comment" brings up years-old stuff, so it's not very helpful to answer this one way or the other.
BUT you can try it on your own videos. Test it out. Post a youtube or any other link through an alt account, then look in incognito mode. Bonus, you might get a notification that a link was removed or caught in the spam filter.
But that's the thing. How am I supposed to know if it's Jeremy doing it or YouTube? Just because it happens via YouTube sometimes doesn't answer if it happened in this instance. And when I posted the link again a few days after the video had aired, it stayed up. And finally, him just ghosting me via email was rude as hell.

 

Battousai

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Dude most people who say they are in favor of freedom of speech mean they favor themselves having the freedom to say whatever they want and not facing any consequences or censorship. They couldn't give any less of a shit about anyone else's freedom of speech if it doesn't follow their own opinions and views on whatever may be the matter, and some will actively harrass you for it.

They are not looking for civil discourse or debate, they are looking for supporters of their same point of view. It doesn't matter where or what really and diehard fans of Star Wars are some of the worst people there are in all fandoms, they simply can't let people enjoy things if its not according to their headcanon or whatever else they have going in that fantasy universe in their heads.
 

Epyc Wynn

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Sargon of Akkad allowed me to be banned from his 'free speech' Discord server because I talked to his moderators, because apparently simply pinging one of them to talk was not allowed. He too ghosted any response to me while all his mods knew, meaning he in turn knew but did nothing to respond or amend.

Too many people lie about caring about free speech and would gladly censor anyone for any reason the moment they have the power to do so, if it fits their desires at the time.

The only thing moderators should be censoring, is censorship itself and anything that is embodied by it. What we 'think' is a bare minimum necessary censorship online, is generally just censorship of messages which in themselves censor someone in order to exist -which at that point is just protecting free speech via censoring censorship.

Dude most people who say they are in favor of freedom of speech mean they favor themselves having the freedom to say whatever they want and not facing any consequences or censorship. They couldn't give any less of a shit about anyone else's freedom of speech if it doesn't follow their own opinions and views on whatever may be the matter, and some will actively harrass you for it.

They are not looking for civil discourse or debate, they are looking for supporters of their same point of view. It doesn't matter where or what really and diehard fans of Star Wars are some of the worst people there are in all fandoms, they simply can't let people enjoy things if its not according to their headcanon or whatever else they have going in that fantasy universe in their heads.
Don't go irresponsibly using that 'most' and creating an irreparable narrative that we should thus not care about those who promote free speech. Such censors posing as leaders for free speech are a problem for those who actually care about free speech.
 
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