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Looks like I got banned on KiwiFarms

Arnox

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For, and I quote, "spraying nonsense all over." So much for saying what you want. Ah well.

I will say I shouldn't have made the topic I did that early. That did come off as pretty damn presumptuous. I would have apologized but that's what happens when KF staff are assholes. They have become the very fuckery that they're decrying. So congratulations, guys. You're just as fuckawful as the NZ government.
 
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Signa

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I think I found what you're talking about. Why did you need to bat that beehive? Some of them say they're coming here to dox us now.
 

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I think I found what you're talking about. Why did you need to bat that beehive? Some of them say they're coming here to dox us now.
Because I didn't know it WAS a beehive. Or at least, I didn't think it was that bad. And I didn't think I was batting it. I should have known better. I don't think they will come over here, but if they do... I don't know. I just thought they would be better than that. It was like petting a rabid dog on my part.
 
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Signa

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Be honest, were you hoping that if this went well, you'd pique some interest for some of them to come over here to increasing our community? Now, I've only heard of KF in passing, but the impression I've been left with is that they're just a step up from 4-chan. While I appreciate 4-chan's spirit of chaos, I don't think that kind of posting would make things better here.

Also, the holes you've left in your identity with us give some credence to the dox they pulled out on page 3. I have no idea what I was looking at, or the burden of proof to be included on that list, but there was at least your email address and this website URL tied to someone who I wouldn't willingly follow around like I do you.
 

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Be honest, were you hoping that if this went well, you'd pique some interest for some of them to come over here to increasing our community?
Actually no. Even if they wanted it, I still would have been leery about letting them come here. The KF community does dox people after all. I already abandoned that kind of community a long time ago. And I didn't think the topic was gonna make that much headway anyway, but I hoped it would at least start up a serious discussion. And that was my real goal.

Also, the holes you've left in your identity with us give some credence to the dox they pulled out on page 3. I have no idea what I was looking at, or the burden of proof to be included on that list, but there was at least your email address and this website URL tied to someone who I wouldn't willingly follow around like I do you.
fakeout0@yahoo.com is a public email. It's even listed in the damn rules. As to the rest, I'm not that worried about it.
 

Signa

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Just to be clear, I don't think you're this Michael character, because if all that was true, he'd be behind bars by now. Still, it would be nice if you'd voice chat with us when we game, so holes don't get filled with these kinds of pieces.
 

Signa

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Actually no. Even if they wanted it, I still would have been leery about letting them come here. The KF community does dox people after all. I already abandoned that kind of community a long time ago. And I didn't think the topic was gonna make that much headway anyway, but I hoped it would at least start up a serious discussion. And that was my real goal.
(I had a moment to reflect on this reply here.)

Yet it's clear you're drawn to that kind of community anyway. I don't mind if you want to hang out with the cool dude hacker types, but now it's raising a lot of questions. Look, I can see you signed up for that account just to make that post, leaving all these bread crumbs for known doxers. You're the one that's constantly security conscious: Just why did you think this was a good idea? "Starting a conversation" is the kind of excuse leftist use to dodge accusations for their bad behavior. Why even call attention do what you did over there by starting this thread? Is destroying the community your goal? Because this how you act when you want to destroy what you've worked hard on.

It's late, and I should have been in bed about 3 hours ago. Don't read anger into my words, because I'm not angry, but just very confused and a little concerned. These actions don't have a satisfactory explanation behind them, and I'm trying to understand. If you want to take it to PM, I'm open for that too.
 

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(I had a moment to reflect on this reply here.)

Yet it's clear you're drawn to that kind of community anyway. I don't mind if you want to hang out with the cool dude hacker types, but now it's raising a lot of questions. Look, I can see you signed up for that account just to make that post, leaving all these bread crumbs for known doxers. You're the one that's constantly security conscious: Just why did you think this was a good idea? "Starting a conversation" is the kind of excuse leftist use to dodge accusations for their bad behavior. Why even call attention do what you did over there by starting this thread? Is destroying the community your goal? Because this how you act when you want to destroy what you've worked hard on.

It's late, and I should have been in bed about 3 hours ago. Don't read anger into my words, because I'm not angry, but just very confused and a little concerned. These actions don't have a satisfactory explanation behind them, and I'm trying to understand. If you want to take it to PM, I'm open for that too.
I'm drawn to any large forum community that doesn't have a huge fucking list of rules, rules that are unreasonable, or a stupid rep system. Again, as to doxing, I'm not that concerned about it, though I will agree, it was stupid to involve you all in this by using the same avatar as over here. It was a slip-up that's not going to happen again. But why did I think they were at least halfway reasonable in the first place?


^ This thread received a lot of serious and semi-serious replies. I thought that if someone could make a thread like that, then perhaps I could make the thread I had made there. I was very much mistaken.

Another thing too is that over the years, I guess I've grown pretty soft. I haven't had to deal with this level of shit community in years. I thought I had seen the last of it back towards the end of Sanctuary v1.0. As such, I let my guard down a lot.
 
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You can get banned on KiwiFarms?

KiwiFarm is where Vicious Autistic Spergs are stalking and mocking other Autustic Spergs to laugh at them for being autistic spergs.

The fact that people still follows and cares about fuckin ChrisChan is just sad at this point. He's a beaten dead horse that they are continue to beat because even its dead motionless body is still funny to them.
 

MichealKBurks

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Hello Sanctuary.
Pleased to meet you.

Read this and decide if this is the man you want to follow.
A man who has access to your information.
A man who tries to scam you.
Trick you.
Lie.

The leads point to Arnox being a man named Micheal who is a scammer and seller of fake id's and drugs.
Check here for that info:

Now lets start.
here you can see a post by SwissedToast who i believe to be Arnox/Michael trying to run some sort of scam.

We have linked Michael to Arnox so this person using that name and mentioning pill distribution and trying to play the sympathy to lure in suckers. Arnox is the second to reply and its worth noting that the first one to reply and the one most critical to this, was banned.

More suspicious activity.


The thread was created Nov 22, 2018.
The user SwissedToast has 6 total messages.

Archive

As shown the user SwissedToast:
Joined the forum Nov 4, 2018.
Made the thread in question Nov 22, 2018.
Was last seen the day after on Nov 23, 2018

SwissedToast made exactly 2 threads.

Archive

First was "I really don't know" [Archive]
Second was "Object of desire" [Archive] Which we have taken a look at above.
It is the initial thread about selling pills. This thread was the last one to be made.

SwissedToast is Arnox/Michael running a scam on his own community.
Something that might have been tried before.
 

Arnox

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Hello Sanctuary.
Pleased to meet you.

Read this and decide if this is the man you want to follow.
A man who has access to your information.
A man who tries to scam you.
Trick you.
Lie.

The leads point to Arnox being a man named Micheal who is a scammer and seller of fake id's and drugs.
Check here for that info:

Now lets start.
here you can see a post by SwissedToast who i believe to be Arnox/Michael trying to run some sort of scam.

We have linked Michael to Arnox so this person using that name and mentioning pill distribution and trying to play the sympathy to lure in suckers. Arnox is the second to reply and its worth noting that the first one to reply and the one most critical to this, was banned.

More suspicious activity.


The thread was created Nov 22, 2018.
The user SwissedToast has 6 total messages.

Archive

As shown the user SwissedToast:
Joined the forum Nov 4, 2018.
Made the thread in question Nov 22, 2018.
Was last seen the day after on Nov 23, 2018

SwissedToast made exactly 2 threads.

Archive

First was "I really don't know" [Archive]
Second was "Object of desire" [Archive] Which we have taken a look at above.
It is the initial thread about selling pills. This thread was the last one to be made.

SwissedToast is Arnox/Michael running a scam on his own community.
Something that might have been tried before.
Your final post originally just had some rando edgelord image when I saw it in the approval queue, but I helpfully reverted it back to what you really wanted to say. Don't censor yourself, Micheal!

Because unlike KF, freedom of speech is an actual fucking thing here. Enjoy your stay.
 

Just A Butt

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Your final post originally just had some rando edgelord image when I saw it in the approval queue, but I helpfully reverted it back to what you really wanted to say. Don't censor yourself, Micheal!

Because unlike KF, freedom of speech is an actual fucking thing here. Enjoy your stay.
Would you care to respond to any of those allegations? Or do you want to just keep pretending like this doesn’t bother you / isn’t you at all?
 

Just A Butt

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Not really. People can decide for themselves what they want to believe.
I agree. I’m sure your friends are intelligent people, able to draw their own conclusions based on the evidence provided.

I just was hoping to hear your side of the story, but if you have nothing to say, then I had best be off.

Good day.
 

Houseman

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I very much doubt that Arnox is some bald, black, married dude with 5 kids that owns "over 300 illegal websites", and still finds the time to be into dragons, furries, dragon furries, and Black Lagoon.

I think you guys are putting way too much stock into that complaintwire.org post. I mean, it lists "whatismyipaddress.com" as belonging to him, alongside "intosanctuary.com" and "encyclopediadramatica.se"

As far as I can tell, this guy founded "whatismyipaddress.com", and the history of the .se domain can be found here
 

Just A Butt

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I very much doubt that Arnox is some bald, black, married dude with 5 kids that owns "over 300 illegal websites", and still finds the time to be into dragons, furries, dragon furries, and Black Lagoon.

I think you guys are putting way too much stock into that complaintwire.org post. I mean, it lists "whatismyipaddress.com" as belonging to him, alongside "intosanctuary.com" and "encyclopediadramatica.se"

As far as I can tell, this guy founded "whatismyipaddress.com", and the history of the .se domain can be found here
I will admit that the provided dox was exceptional. That’s what made me curious enough to come here and ask about it all. But if one doesn’t refute something, it’s hard to look away.
 

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But if one doesn’t refute something, it’s hard to look away.
That's specious reasoning. If you're wrong, why would he lift a finger to stop you? Wouldn't he rather sit back and watch you furiously bark up the wrong tree? Why would he say "Oh, actually guys, I'm not over there" and give you guys an excuse to focus the search elsewhere?

And what if he did say that? Would you believe him, or say "Ha! That's just what the REAL Micheal would say!" Seems like silence is the best way to go, honestly.
 

Just A Butt

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That's specious reasoning. If you're wrong, why would he lift a finger to stop you? Wouldn't he rather sit back and watch you furiously bark up the wrong tree? Why would he say "Oh, actually guys, I'm not over there" and give you guys an excuse to focus the search elsewhere?

And what if he did say that? Would you believe him, or say "Ha! That's just what the REAL Micheal would say!" Seems like silence is the best way to go, honestly.
I wasn’t looking for a flat denial or anything like that. Just was curious.

He had to have pissed someone off at some point for them to have listed his email among all that other garbage, right? I wanted to see if there was a story behind it.

You guys expect me to be hostile, and I get that, but I have tried to be polite. I genuinely don’t care about it one way or the other. I’m just a curious guy. If you want to read that as hostility, I apologize.
 

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I wasn’t looking for a flat denial or anything like that. Just was curious.

He had to have pissed someone off at some point for them to have listed his email among all that other garbage, right? I wanted to see if there was a story behind it.

You guys expect me to be hostile, and I get that, but I have tried to be polite. I genuinely don’t care about it one way or the other. I’m just a curious guy. If you want to read that as hostility, I apologize.
If you really are earnest as you say, then take my advice and get out of KF. Go somewhere else. That place is a toxic shithole. Otherwise, disregard this post.

Also, yeah, I pissed people off. I pissed a lot of people off. Nothing but tears and crying. But you guys should already know. You guys have read it all, haven't you?
 

Just A Butt

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If you really are earnest as you say, then take my advice and get out of KF. Go somewhere else. That place is a toxic shithole. Otherwise, disregard this post.
It’s only toxic if you take it seriously.

It’s a shitposting forum. None of it means anything. It has one purpose: entertainment.

Now, sometimes defending that entertainment takes a serious tone, but that’s a different subject altogether.
 

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He had to have pissed someone off at some point for them to have listed his email among all that other garbage, right?
Like how encyclopediadramatica.se or whatismyipaddress.com pissed off the "special investigator" enough to get them included in the list? Nah.

If I were to hazard a guess, I'd say that the guy just cast too wide of a net and started tilting at windmills. Anything that even remotely looked like a fake id, drug, silk road, etc. was attributed to "Micheal". Maybe he came upon intosanctuary because people were discussing drugs or fake ids, and then the "investigator" just assumed that he and the admin (Arnox) were one and the same.

The "investigator" probably began with the assumption that Micheal was in charge of all the world's fake ids and internet-bought drugs, and then worked backwards from there.
 

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It’s only toxic if you take it seriously.

It’s a shitposting forum. None of it means anything. It has one purpose: entertainment.
Think of all this like an unlocked car. Yeah, the person who owns the car should have locked it. They should have taken proper precautions. You justify stealing it because they're a dumbass and this is what happens to dumbasses. And the original owner of the car may be retarded, but the thing is, you're still a fucking thief and the reason why we even have to have locked doors in this messed up world of ours.
 
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Houseman

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Think of all this like an unlocked car. Yeah, the person who owns the car should have locked it. They should have taken proper precautions. You justify stealing it because they're a dumbass and this is what happens to dumbasses. And they may be retarded, but you're still a fucking thief and the reason why we even have to have locked doors in this messed up world of ours.
But that's how the world works. Thieves, murderers, etc., will always exist. It would take an omnipotent, omniscient being to step in and solve all the world's problems. Isn't that what we're taught as Christians? (I don't actually know what you believe on this subject)
 
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